Unveiled Artist
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Cant work for me, i dont blame the gun, i blame the shooter
Blame the action not the object of it.
i.e. I hate killing (not the object used to do it) but I don't hate the killer. That's the difference.
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Cant work for me, i dont blame the gun, i blame the shooter
No. I don't have enemies.
I still don't have one
When is said "love your enemy" I don't take it to mean "cuddle them".
I avoid potential enemies. Hence I don't have any
Do you believe you can love your enemies?
If so, would it make sense to call the person you love an enemy?
Love your enemies means for example loving (and forgiving) Hitler.
Do you love your enemies?
I believe in the concept of Karma.
Yes, after you have gotten safety from their attacks, and then in a situation that is safe for you, then it is possible, though very difficult without insight or aid. (actually difficult even with insight and techniques to help (but possible) , when I tried before faith) But first, you have to forgive them! (a first step, and that also requires safety)Do you believe you can love your enemies?
Indeed it ends that! The enemy (for real, for years) became a friend. It was twilight zone at first, and took a while to get used to, but now I'd be delighted to see him again. It was....almost unbelievable. If it had not happened for me, I would have trouble believing it.If so, would it make sense to call the person you love an enemy?
Actually, to me an 'enemy' is someone that directly attacks oneself or someone close to oneself, not just an evil historical figure. To qualify, I'd have had to had relatives that were his victims.Love your enemies means for example loving (and forgiving) Hitler.
Yes, but 'love' means not merely forgiving, but is something that tends to grow over time. It's not like I love them without even knowing them, but I can love them to the extent I can get to know them, and I can try to get to know people, those that are willing to respond to friendly overtures. It's not only those who do wrongs against us personally we should love, but simply each person we get to know. (also, everyone has done wrongs, so an 'enemy' is only when you were on the receiving end, in my view, but anyone else could qualify for someone) 'Grace' means among other things to forgive and love someone that hasn't earned it fully. But your heart wants to have grace. Best is to get the help anyone can have that turns to the redeemer Christ not in a tradition or a grew-up in a church way, but instead for real.Do you love your enemies?
I have no enemies.Do you believe you can love your enemies?
If so, would it make sense to call the person you love an enemy?
Love your enemies means for example loving (and forgiving) Hitler.
Do you love your enemies?
Yes, after you have gotten safety from their attacks, and then in a situation that is safe for you, then it is possible, though very difficult without insight or aid. (actually difficult even with insight and techniques to help (but possible) , when I tried before faith) But first, you have to forgive them! (a first step, and that also requires safety)
Indeed it ends that! The enemy (for real, for years) became a friend. It was twilight zone at first, and took a while to get used to, but now I'd be delighted to see him again. It was....almost unbelievable. If it had not happened for me, I would have trouble believing it.
Actually, to me an 'enemy' is someone that directly attacks oneself or someone close to oneself, not just an evil historical figure. To qualify, I'd have had to had relatives that were his victims.
Yes, but 'love' means not merely forgiving, but is something that tends to grow over time. It's not like I love them without even knowing them, but I can love them to the extent I can get to know them, and I can try to get to know people, those that are willing to respond to friendly overtures. It's not only those who do wrongs against us personally we should love, but simply each person we get to know. (also, everyone has done wrongs, so an 'enemy' is only when you were on the receiving end, in my view, but anyone else could qualify for someone) 'Grace' means among other things to forgive and love someone that hasn't earned it fully. But your heart wants to have grace. Best is to get the help anyone can have that turns to the redeemer Christ not in a tradition or a grew-up in a church way, but instead for real.
Not sure what 'unconditionally' means for you there, but in my view we humans only love well to the extent we sense or know someone as the particular person they are and then value them, uniquely, which is sorta the opposite of 'unconditional' in one sense, but on the other had it is accepting/valuing someone as being the particular unique person they are in ideal form. Not just a generic love, but more unique to each one. About "God is love", it makes more sense when read in full context, and that's in the 1rst letter of John in the common bible (having already read the Gospel of John first), if one wants to learn how it is meant (the letter could be read in 15 or 20 minutes even at a slower, contemplative pace; if one has already read the Gospel of John first).Apparently Christians think god is love.
To say one "loves" everyone, unconditionally,
is meaningless.
Thanks, i will think about that later.Not sure what 'unconditionally' means for you there, but in my view we humans only love well to the extent we sense or know someone as the particular person they are and then value them, uniquely, which is sorta the opposite of 'unconditional' in one sense, but on the other had it is accepting/valuing someone as being the particular unique person they are in ideal form. Not just a generic love, but more unique to each one. About "God is love", it makes more sense when read in full context, and that's in the 1rst letter of John in the common bible, if one wants to learn how it is meant (the letter could be read in 15 or 20 minutes even at a slower, contemplative pace).
So do you agree with the op that Hitler should be loved because he is human regardless of his actions?Hitler caused a war that "harmed" living members of my family directly, later generations indirectly, and his crimes were against humanity.
You are right. I have no enemies. I do my best to Love everyone Unconditionally.
Does that mean a person is weak? In reality, it's quite the opposite.
Unconditional Love always does what is Best for the other. It has never meant giving them everything they want.
For those who hurt me, I work at solving the problem, fixing them, point them toward the light, guide them toward greatness. On the other hand, it's not always easy, however it is the only choice one can make if one is to eliminate the choice of Hate in one. It's the only path to the Higher Level.
In time, everyone will Discover that the price for Hate will always be too high.
WE must learn to Think then act rather than simply reacting to things in our lives. The results will prove to be much better.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
i never said it did. but think of it like a baby.. if a baby bit you, would you hate it? if it continued to bite you, to attack you, would you realize that it doesn't understand? or would you simply see it as out to get you personally, and view it as an enemy?
again, it doesn't have to do with physiology. it's psychological
I avoid potential enemies. Hence I don't have any
Potential enemies?
That would mean it would be possible to have enemies even though you don't have them now?
No. I don't have enemies.
When is said "love your enemy" I don't take it to mean "cuddle them".
When I am at the zoo, I appreciate 'wild' tigers. When I allow myself inside, I'm sure my appreciation goes down a notch (or 2).Love meaning appreciating (can't think of the right word) them as a human being. Compassion for humans "because they are humans" regardless their actions. Some call it unconditional love but for some reason I can't find a good word thats more specific when we consider (if we do) our relationship with other people as humans.
Not affectionate with them. Love has different meanings based on context.
Love meaning appreciating (can't think of the right word) them as a human being. Compassion for humans "because they are humans" regardless their actions. Some call it unconditional love but for some reason I can't find a good word thats more specific when we consider (if we do) our relationship with other people as humans.
Not affectionate with them. Love has different meanings based on context.
Blame the action not the object of it.
i.e. I hate killing (not the object used to do it) but I don't hate the killer. That's the difference.
Yeah. Many people (at least on this thread) are of the latter. I think to many it would depend on the age (i.e. infant), nature of the "crime" (i.e. child abuse vs theft), and how society/majority defines it (priest/molester compared to parent/molesters; weirdly enough, the two are viewed different).
I agree. Maybe people do hate themselves and project it on others (reflecting on what you said). It should work the same way with an adult, do you think?