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Featured Love and Emotional Evolution

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. Fool

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    as a species, or intelligent thing, evolves would it evolve emotionally towards unconditional love ultimately?
     
  2. David T

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    No dont be stupid. Just discovering whats already there and ignored is all. Sort of like saying do evolve to actually understamd jesus! Hell it was written 2,000 years ago. So between there and here is just stupid talking to stupid mostly as far as i can tell. I would never say evolve towards it but i will say stop being stupid evolve.
     
  3. The Reverend Bob

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    I really don't think you understand what evolution is. Maybe try learning about evolution first.
     
  4. Neutral Name

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    I would hope so but it doesn't seem like that is what is happening.
     
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    FAITH cant climb the mountain and be upon the paramount too.
     
  6. viole

    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    You mean faith in Ganesh, the elephant Godhead, and such?

    Ciao

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  7. ameyAtmA

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    Yes. That is the highest ideal, and the direction in which spiritual evolution takes place. At least we know which direction to walk in.

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    Speaking of animals, wild animals like lions, tigers become passive and peaceful, even loving, act like pet puppies in presence of some saints.
     
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  8. The Reverend Bob

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    Prove it.
     
  9. ameyAtmA

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    I have read that in historical or biographical anecdotes of a few Hindu saints
    1. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (a.k.a. GaurAnga, Gaurasundara, Nimai - for google help)
    2. NRsiMha Saraswati
    3. Some other Yogis who meditated in caves
     
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  10. The Reverend Bob

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    Anecdotes aren't proof.
     
  11. ameyAtmA

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    I should have used the word historical narrations. I do not feel the need to prove anything to you :) No offence intended. It was for readers who will benefit from reading what I shared.
     
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  12. The Reverend Bob

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    If you make a claim, you are kind of obligated to provide evidence or wear the Scarlet B
     
  13. ameyAtmA

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    Perhaps because what IS happening may not necessarily be 100% evolution? From spiritual perspective, it could be part-devolution. This is Kali Yug (era of some good some bad).
     
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    Yes, I do believe in devolution. Several civilizations have gone through it.
     
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    All emotions require conditions so what would be unconditional Love?
     
  16. ameyAtmA

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    I told you where I read that, It was an honest and friendly post but if you do not respect the quoted texts then it is a waste of my time.
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    There are numerous examples from ancient times that saints radiate positive feelings of love, safety, compassion that affect wild animals. So many siddha yogis tamed or subdued the wild. Some of these texts are not translated in English.

    I am putting a few quotes form Chaitanya CharitrAmrita:

    CC Madhya 17.24 — The Lord abandoned walking on the well-known public road and went instead along a bypass. He thus kept the city of Kaṭaka on His right as He entered the forest.
    CC Madhya 17.25 — When the Lord passed through the solitary forest chanting the holy name of Kṛṣṇa, the tigers and elephants, seeing Him, gave way.
    CC Madhya 17.26 — When the Lord passed through the jungle in great ecstasy, packs of tigers, elephants, rhinoceros and boars came, and the Lord passed right through them.
    CC Madhya 17.27 — Balabhadra Bhaṭṭācārya was very much afraid to see them, but by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s influence, all the animals stood to one side.
    CC Madhya 17.28 — One day a tiger was lying on the path, and Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, walking along the path in ecstatic love, touched the tiger with His feet......
     
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    Need I remind you that this is a debate thread and not your safe space or echo chamber
     
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    Please take a look - I have added some quotes.
     
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    Religious text have no value as evidence unless you can prove that the contents have historicity. Do you have any photos, film or any other solid evidence that "saints" can turn lions, tigers and bears into puppies?
     
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    love of all as one undifferentiated thing, nuk pu nuk.


    ayam ātmā brahma
     
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