Love and Belief

[Wildswanderer]

the ideal is love. Doesn't matter if it's Jesus or another. What ever you do unto the least of these you do unto me.

Unconditional love is not a respecter of persons.

It mattered a great deal to Jesus who people believed in.

"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life."

You don't get eternal life by just believing in any version of God.

 

[Fool]

Ok, so what does this have to do with faith vs Love?

Faith doesn't cover sin, only love does.

Unconditional love doesn't have favorites

 

[Fool]

It mattered a great deal to Jesus who people believed in.

"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life."

You don't get eternal life by just believing in any version of God.

You don't get eternal life through belief. Faith without love is dead. To become godly you must love. I have told you a truth and yet you still don't believe. Eternal life comes through love. Daniel said some would find unconditional love contemptible.



Love doesn't require Faith. Faith depends on love.



Flattery, fauning towards Jesus won't get you in to heaven. Idolatry is forbidden in the ot and nt. Unconditional love, or the first two commandments don't require faith/belief. Unconditional love doesn't make a difference between self and other.

Nor does Unconditional love make a difference between Jesus and another human being. Jesus even told you this. What ever you do unto the least of these, you do unto me.

Believing in someone isn't a requirement to idolize.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You don't get eternal life through belief.

I just quoted Jesus saying that is exactly what you get for believing in him.
No one can love as God does without believing in the correct version of God.

 

[Fool]

I just quoted Jesus saying that is exactly what you get for believing in him.
No one can love as God does without believing in the correct version of God.

Love isn't something you get. Love is something you already have. It is what is called the holy Spirit. Love is holy

Your will or God's will. Most aren't interested in the will of unconditional love. They want their will not the will of unconditional love. That is why they find it contemptible.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Love isn't something you get. Love is something you already have. It is what is called the holy Spirit. Love is holy

Your will or God's will. Most aren't interested in the will of unconditional love. They want their will not the will of unconditional love. That is why they find it contemptible.

You aren't even replying to what I say. I didn't say you get love. I said you got eternal life for believing in Jesus. I don't find love contemptible. Yes love comes from the Spirit but only to the extent we believe.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Which is greater, which is a need, love or belief. You can't have both.

We do not make such a hullabaloo for love.

 

[Fool]

You aren't even replying to what I say. I didn't say you get love. I said you got eternal life for believing in Jesus. I don't find love contemptible. Yes love comes from the Spirit but only to the extent we believe.

No you don't. You get eternal life for the act of love. You keep missing the mark.

Matthew 11:28-30

The Way is love. Not belief.

 

[Nakosis]

Maslow never had belief in his hierarchy of needs

Another criticism concerns Maslow's assumption that the lower needs must be satisfied before a person can achieve their potential and self-actualize. This is not always the case, and therefore Maslow's hierarchy of needs in some aspects has been falsified.
https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

 

[Fool]

Another criticism concerns Maslow's assumption that the lower needs must be satisfied before a person can achieve their potential and self-actualize. This is not always the case, and therefore Maslow's hierarchy of needs in some aspects has been falsified.
https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

That's not that hard to comprehend. There are no absolutes in science. But no one gets anywhere without someone else helping them. So pulling yourself up by your shoestrings is not realistic

 

[Nakosis]

Which is greater, which is a need, love or belief. You can't have both.

Belief is needed by infants and the ignorant.
Love is needed by the insecure.

Which need is greater I suspect depends on what stage in life you find yourself.

 

[Fool]

Belief is needed by infants and the ignorant.
Love is needed by the insecure.

Which need is greater I suspect depends on what stage in life you find yourself.

Love is needed at all stages of life. Even narcissistic people love themselves. Love is not necessarily someone else. It's self too.

 

[Nakosis]

That's not that hard to comprehend. There are no absolutes in science. But no one gets anywhere without someone else helping them. So pulling yourself up by your shoestrings is not realistic

Someone has to be the first. Perhaps not realistic nor practical but necessary.
The help can't come from anyone but from someone who has already traveled the path.
Lots of people offering to help but no guarantes you'll get to where you need to be.

So, who are you going to believe in to get you to the right place?

 

[Nakosis]

Love is needed at all stages of life. Even narcissistic people love themselves. Love is not necessarily someone else. It's self too.

You only need what you don't have.

 

[Fool]

You only need what you don't have.

Hatred of self leads to self-destruction. Love or hate.

 

[Nakosis]

Hatred of self leads to self-destruction. Love or hate.

Love is pretty easy though. Once you figure it is just a biochemical physiological process.

 

[Fool]

Love is pretty easy though. Once you figure it is just a biochemical physiological process.

There are psychological States which can override biological functions

 

[Nakosis]

There are psychological States which can override biological functions

And there are ways one can override their psychological states.

 

[Fool]

And there are ways one can override their psychological states.

Love isn't chemical; otherwise we wouldn't love people of varying ages, genders, sexes, race, and ethnicity. I'm talking about friendship. Not sexual love

 

[Nakosis]

Love isn't chemical; otherwise we wouldn't love people of varying ages, genders, sexes, race, and ethnicity. I'm talking about friendship. Not sexual love

Yes, that is what a lot of people believe.