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Louisiana - First State to Require the Display of Ten Commandments?

Balthazzar

Christian Evolutionist
Apparently, the bill is waiting to be signed into Louisiana law.

Aside from the obvious disagreements with public display of the ten commandments, I'm sure the requirement law is sure to raise a few brows. At first, I was a little irked, but upon reflection I'm thinking ... why not? Seriously, why not? Why not initiate a state law that requires the ten commandments to be displayed in every classroom in every state funded educational institution?

Historical documents of times past, that some still adhere to seems fair enough to me, but to be required by law? Hehe, that's the wow factor in play and it is an in the face kind of WOW!

I'm not in disagreement, anymore. We did ok for over 200 years with them being displayed, so why not?


 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Why not initiate a state law that requires the ten commandments to be displayed in every classroom in every state funded educational institution?
Because of the first amendment.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Apparently, the bill is waiting to be signed into Louisiana law.

Aside from the obvious disagreements with public display of the ten commandments, I'm sure the requirement law is sure to raise a few brows. At first, I was a little irked, but upon reflection I'm thinking ... why not? Seriously, why not? Why not initiate a state law that requires the ten commandments to be displayed in every classroom in every state funded educational institution?

Historical documents of times past, that some still adhere to seems fair enough to me, but to be required by law? Hehe, that's the wow factor in play and it is an in the face kind of WOW!

I'm not in disagreement, anymore. We did ok for over 200 years with them being displayed, so why not?


Oh, yes. For example, it should be forced upon children who were abused and abandoned by their parents to still "honour thy father and thy mother."

And since all sculpture is basically "graven images," every statue in the nation should be immediately torn down, dragged out of museums and broken up into rubble!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Because of the first amendment.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Add to that is the fact that SCOTUS ruled
that the 1st Amendment is "incorporated",
ie, it applies to the states too.
 

Balthazzar

Christian Evolutionist
I doubt these are going to be given nearly as much credence over the ten to be displayed, but that is yet to be seen. They must be state funded educational institutions. This is the perquisite for the law if signed. This doesn't affect independent schools, however. Maybe, that's a great idea with all the controversy surrounding curriculum and what have you. It would seem a better fit for some parents to send their kids to attend independent schools who are more apt to fit into their personal ideological framework. They'd likely learn more if they attended somewhere better suited to their needs, anyway. We need better educational opportunities, anyway. The more on the buffet the better. This will require some private sector funding for the institutions development and teacher salaries, but it can be done, and this nation will be all the better for it. I might pledge a few dollars a month for the institution of my personal choosing if ever this reaches my home state. Or, home school is another option. I'm sure most parents feel more than adequate and capable of educating their kids. Particularly if they are religiously attuned. So much time is wasted at public schools, that it doesn't leave much time for the kids to learn much about their family's religious history. It's too taboo to talk about at public schools, so this is a great opportunity to teach better family values than those to be displayed in the classrooms.
 

Balthazzar

Christian Evolutionist
Oh, yes. For example, it should be forced upon children who were abused and abandoned by their parents to still "honour thy father and thy mother."

And since all sculpture is basically "graven images," every statue in the nation should be immediately torn down, dragged out of museums and broken up into rubble!
I was never forced to look at nudie pictures online, but they were present to be viewed if I chose to. I happen to enjoy nudie pictures, so yay for me. I know I'm not forced to watch violent tv shows, but they are on tv, and well ... I'm a history buff and sometimes enjoy cop shows or some type of similar suspense, so I sometimes do, but I am not forced to. I don't watch porno anymore, or cheesy musicals, but I do enjoy live concerts and shhhh .... wrestling.

Anyway, the kids aren't forced to honor their mother or father, nor are they required to read the displays, but they may end up being there if they still want to.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Apparently, the bill is waiting to be signed into Louisiana law.

Aside from the obvious disagreements with public display of the ten commandments, I'm sure the requirement law is sure to raise a few brows. At first, I was a little irked, but upon reflection I'm thinking ... why not? Seriously, why not? Why not initiate a state law that requires the ten commandments to be displayed in every classroom in every state funded educational institution?

Historical documents of times past, that some still adhere to seems fair enough to me, but to be required by law? Hehe, that's the wow factor in play and it is an in the face kind of WOW!

I'm not in disagreement, anymore. We did ok for over 200 years with them being displayed, so why not?


We are going to run out of space on the walls for pictures of presidents and ABCs
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Or did you forget the :) /s
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I was never forced to look at nudie pictures online, but they were present to be viewed if I chose to. I happen to enjoy nudie pictures, so yay for me. I know I'm not forced to watch violent tv shows, but they are on tv, and well ... I'm a history buff and sometimes enjoy cop shows or some type of similar suspense, so I sometimes do, but I am not forced to. I don't watch porno anymore, or cheesy musicals, but I do enjoy live concerts and shhhh .... wrestling.

Anyway, the kids aren't forced to honor their mother or father, nor are they required to read the displays, but they may end up being there if they still want to.
This country was founded by people avoiding religious persecution in Europe and wanted no part in government endorsement of religion, and yes it has worked pretty well for 200+ years, why mess with it now?
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
This country was founded by people avoiding religious persecution in Europe and wanted no part in government endorsement of religion, and yes it has worked pretty well for 200+ years, why mess with it now?

Not quite. This country was founded by religious extremists, who did t flee persecution, but the fact that people told them they couldn't be d-bags in the name of religion to others.
 

Balthazzar

Christian Evolutionist
And that's the problem.

Until they can be seen as equals. They shouldn't be seen at all in public spaces.
Why is that? You suggest that all religions be given equal status for the decision to display no more than ten "commandments", which are generally considered to be good rules of thumb, anyway. I thought this was a no god battle. If this is a every religion battle, then wouldn't it be more appropriate for religious practitioners to accommodate an institution to teach appropriate curriculum to kids who belong to families opposed to the display? It took over 200 years for this to be an issue. What happened? We've seen a very hard hit to our constitutional bill of rights lately. The pulling of the ten commandments, gun rights, and even some 1st amendment freedoms, those of free speech, press, and in some cases assembly.

If this is a no god battle and a disagreement of general rules of thumb listed as the 10 commandments, then what does this suggest about those who oppose them? Is it the term God? Is it about murder? Adultery? Desiring someone else's stuff? Mom and dad? Making up lies about your neighbors? Worship of fake stuff? Resting at least one day a week? Theft? Seriously, is this truly about constitutional law to those who oppose the display? State decision, per process ... This helps keep community seeing eye to eye.
 
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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I was never forced to look at nudie pictures online, but they were present to be viewed if I chose to. I happen to enjoy nudie pictures, so yay for me. I know I'm not forced to watch violent tv shows, but they are on tv, and well ... I'm a history buff and sometimes enjoy cop shows or some type of similar suspense, so I sometimes do, but I am not forced to. I don't watch porno anymore, or cheesy musicals, but I do enjoy live concerts and shhhh .... wrestling.

Anyway, the kids aren't forced to honor their mother or father, nor are they required to read the displays, but they may end up being there if they still want to.
Then why the heck would you want a bunch of "thou shalt nots" signed into law? You said yourself, you're no longer in disagreement!
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
which are generally considered to be good rules of thumb
By who? Who considers them good “rules of thumb”? Some of them maybe, others are arguably good advice, but some are straight out religious dogma which must not be imposed on others in a free society.


Maybe the four noble truths and the eightfold path should be placed in every classroom. I think there is wisdom there, don’t you?
 

Balthazzar

Christian Evolutionist
Then why the heck would you want a bunch of "thou shalt nots" signed into law? You said yourself, you're no longer in disagreement!
A display on the wall is what's being discussed, but I'm not in disagreement with the rules as listed...typically speaking. I don't think that's the point, anyway. "You should not's" are everywhere, man. Where have you been?
 
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