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Losing Our Freedoms on the Road from 9/11 to COVID-19

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by icehorse, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. icehorse

    icehorse Veteran Member
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    Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
     
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    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise
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    I looked up the guy. I’ll give him props to adhering to his principles without hypocrisy. Which I have observed with some alleged “free speech absolutists.”
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    we are an economically based society

    don't let them put a chip in your hand
    if you do....you're screwed

    but then again.....you might be screwed anyway
    and the choice won't be yours
     
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    sky is falling, sky is falling run run coronaa ( haha ) run all wise modern animals, indeed all are really sound wise.
     
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    The Aristocrats, bankers and corporatists have been trying to claw their way back to power ever since the crash of '29 and FDR's "socialist" New Deal."

    9/11 was a Klein moment, a shock enabling a slew of legislation to be enacted with little public awareness or discussion: The Homeland Security Department, The Patriot act, The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance act, &al. Big Brother had triumphed.

    We do have a 'deep state', but it's not the deep state of Republican propaganda, it's more a deep, police-surveillance state.
     
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    Thank you for sharing this article.

    First quote in it says a lot. Whether you call it "Deep State" or "like minded and similarly lawyered oligarchs" is just semantics IMO
    Most important is to recognize what "They" do, sad thing is, that they have the power, and will never give up. So "police state" probably follows

    The "New Normal" proves, that they are not willing to give up the power that Corona conveniently handed them now
     
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