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Living on Mars or the Moon

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Let's say you decided to travel to outer space to a planet which could be inhabitable. You travel with a few other astronauts and with any basic necessities to live, but not with the makings of a whole society of people as it currently stands.

How do you think living on this other planet, in some of those conditions, working together with a few rather than encountering many, and beholding outer space, might affect your outlooks on society, life, and possibly even your spiritual walk, and possibly your views on religion?
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Let's say you decided to travel to outer space to a planet which could be inhabitable. You travel with a few other astronauts and with any basic necessities to live, but not with the makings of a whole society of people as it currently stands.

How do you think living on this other planet, in some of those conditions, working together with a few rather than encountering many, and beholding outer space, might affect your outlooks on society, life, and possibly even your spiritual walk, and possibly your views on religion?
Living on the moon would be beautiful, imagine seeing a huge Earth in the sky at all times.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Living on the moon would be beautiful, imagine seeing a huge Earth in the sky at all times.
It's a rather static & remote beauty, unlike Earth,
with it's lush environments that change daily &
with the seasons, & allow us to wriggle our toes
in the grass while smelling the flowers.
On Moon or Mars, going outside would be totally
divorced from the environment....unless your
artificial heat & air leaked out, thereby killing you.
**** space.
**** living on a rock in space.
 

The Hammer

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Premium Member
Let's say you decided to travel to outer space to a planet which could be inhabitable. You travel with a few other astronauts and with any basic necessities to live, but not with the makings of a whole society of people as it currently stands.

How do you think living on this other planet, in some of those conditions, working together with a few rather than encountering many, and beholding outer space, might affect your outlooks on society, life, and possibly even your spiritual walk, and possibly your views on religion?

Terrible, look at all the miserable health effects micro-gravity causes on astronauts. Or the fact that radiation has nothing to stop it because there is no atmosphere and magnetosphere protecting you.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Terrible, look at all the miserable health effects micro-gravity causes on astronauts. Or the fact that radiation has nothing to stop it because there is no atmosphere and magnetosphere protecting you.
Too many people absorb a falsely positive impression
of off-Earth living from Star Trek & its ilk.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Let's say you decided to travel to outer space to a planet which could be inhabitable. You travel with a few other astronauts and with any basic necessities to live, but not with the makings of a whole society of people as it currently stands.

How do you think living on this other planet, in some of those conditions, working together with a few rather than encountering many, and beholding outer space, might affect your outlooks on society, life, and possibly even your spiritual walk, and possibly your views on religion?
"Hell is other people." - Sartre

I don't think the environment does much on peoples philosophy, it's the people they interact with. You don't need to go to space. Put the same group in a submarine, in a research station in Antarctica or on a tropical island. The environment won't have as much influence as the group dynamics.
 

Exaltist Ethan

Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
After I'm resurrected I hope the post-humans will be able to transport me to habitable exoplanets in other star systems. I really don't want to visit dead Mars or moon. Not interesting to me.
 

Sedim Haba

Outa here... bye-bye!
Let's say you decided to travel to outer space to a planet which could be inhabitable. You travel with a few other astronauts and with any basic necessities to live, but not with the makings of a whole society of people as it currently stands.

How do you think living on this other planet, in some of those conditions, working together with a few rather than encountering many, and beholding outer space, might affect your outlooks on society, life, and possibly even your spiritual walk, and possibly your views on religion?

Living on the moon would be close to living in Antarctica. You're isolated, dangerously so,
but humanity is relatively close-by. You can still participate in the world. You can keep your
earthly time-zone for example.

Mars is, for now, a one-way do-or-die proposition, no chance of rescue or even timely help.
 

Ella S.

*temp banned*
A trip to Mars won't be like taking a short cruise with artificial gravity so you can feel the Martian sand between your toes and relax while watching the Martian sunset.

It would be a months-long journey in zero gravity and, once you get there, you can only be on the surface for a short time in a cumbersome environment suit before you have to shut yourself away in a base. Even making the journey would be physically taxing, requiring you to not only be very physically fit but specially trained to work in low gravity environments.

While there, it would dawn on you the gravity of having no straightforward way off the planet or outside of your base. You end up trapped in a tiny station composed of cramped metal tubes that only feels smaller every day with people who are slowly outstaying their welcome.

The few times that you're able to get outside in your bulky suit, whether you're on the moon or Mars, you would look around to see that everything in every direction looks exactly the same. Of course there are a few landmarks you can make out and there is some heterogeneity in how big or small the rocks are beneath your feet, but it's mostly a single color composed of a single material.

The likely outcome from living in this state of isolation is insomnia, homesickness, cabin fever, prairie fever, a decline in cognitive ability, and increasing emotional numbness. You begin to lose your sense of self and your sense of time. You would eventually forget what fresh air was like.

Your body, too, would begin to break down with your mind due to the alien environment. Your muscles would atrophy, your bones would go weak, and your blood would thin. You would begin to feel sicker and sicker alongside your growing madness.

I think it would change most people. It would make them more detached and apathetic, perhaps even more pessimistic and cynical.
 
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Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
I don't think the environment does much on peoples philosophy, it's the people they interact with.
"It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness." - Marx
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
Your body, too, would begin to break down with your mind due to the alien environment. Your muscles would atrophy, your bones would go weak, and your blood would thin. You would begin to feel sicker and sicker alongside your growing madness.

And here I thought colonizing Mars was the long-range plan for when the planet Earth is done.
Oh well.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Didn't getting off the planet earth begin with fantasy at one time?
When plans are reasonable, they're plans.
When they're unreasonable, they're fantasy.
Merely getting to orbit, or visiting the Moon
was difficult but doable. But there's no way
we're getting Earth's population to Mars as
a permanent home.
Problems....
- Cost
- Resources
- Mars is inhospitable, eg, radiation, no air, poisonous soil.

Also, belief that life on Earth will all die off
is a fantasy...a dystopian one. Even mass
extinction (eg, by meteor strike) would be
more easily prepared for here than on Mars.
 
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