Life In 10 to 16 Dimensions

[Revoltingest]

Just having a bit of fun to take my mind off of Drump.

Create a thread just for fun?
I'll have to give that a try.
(I'm oft accused of being so deadly serious.)

 

[Subduction Zone]

Millions of years old! Yeah, the rocks are.....but not the features they form! If the mountains were that old, we'd see rounded stumps, from all the weathering and extreme erosion they endure!

Yet what do we observe? Clear, distinct features on most, with attributes revealing a relatively young age!

In fact, it's the most obvious evidence supporting the recentness of the global Flood.

The features too and that is easily proven.

Where do you get the idea that mountains would be worn down in such a short period of time? Mountains are millions of years old for the most part. There are some very young volcanoes. +But that is about it.

 

[Ellen Brown]

I was driving south from Fossil, Oregon, on Thursday, and it would be dark in another hour. I'd just had a range grown Ribeye Rare, well half of it, and my thirst for blood was sated. Much of the time driving out there, I turn off all the electronic media and commune with the creation around me. The eighth Moon and Mars floated above me and would set in a while. Rounding a bend, I startled a Doe, but she did not jump in front of me as they are sometimes wont to do.

Around here is the Old Country, laid bare in often deeply eroded canyons. Fossils from a once verdant sea laid barely buried or completely exposed.

After a while, I turned on the Radio, only to hear someone piteously wailing about the pure and risen Jesus Christ. I don't have issue with the Christ, but the wailing and ridiculous caterwauling caused me to punch the off button in grief. It was that sort who cast me out to be consumed by satan for what they'd imagined I'd done. The truth was not spicy and lurid enough for them.

Presently, the Sun set, and the driving began that demanded complete alertness, as I headed out to Prineville, Or. In that country at night, I reduce my speed to not much about 45 mph, and drive with my brights on. I can often go for a half hour, or more without seeing another car, but the Deer, Elk and others that reside out there have no lights. Often if I find an open spot with exposure to the sky, I'll stop to watch the glorious march of the Heavenly bodies that dwell there. Sometimes I wish they would speak to me and tell me of their lives. If the Lord and I converse, it is mostly quiet, compelling and sometimes easily missed.

I park my car back in PDX half past midnight, and sleep late.

Tonight I'll seek to pacify my Editor, and try to write another installment of a soppy romance about an almost young widow who has hired a companion, escort to take her to dinner and the movies. Oh, what will they get up to that is permissible?

 

[Ellen Brown]

Create a thread just for fun?
I'll have to give that a try.
(I'm oft accused of being so deadly serious.)

Good on ya then.

 

[Kenny]

It is annoying to me that so much talk around Religion seems bent on making it either too mysterious, or false.

Then there is just a great deal about the Science world that seems theoretical and perhaps not for the common folk.

I'd suggest that so many things that we do not understand appears that way simply because we try to ignore anything that occurs outside our very limiting three dimensional existence. In my world, so much of what goes on in the Bible and Quran that seems mysterious and forbidden to us could simply be a bit of bleed over from other dimensions.

I'm frustrated that so much of what has gone on in the distant past is subject to attempts to write it off as too loony to have happened. Right now, I am thinking of the Old Testament, and the pointless discussion about whether the burning bush, the flood, or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah happened.

As far as the flood is concerned, there are scientists who postulate that there is 5 to 7 times the amount of water in the oceans submerged deep in the rock below. So perhaps it is likely that the flood could have happened very easily, as in the Biblical description?

One of my favorite incidents is what happened in the book of Ezekiel? Scholars see it as either not real or too holy and mysterious to be discussed. For me, a previously unseen being that just flew his dimensionally shifting craft in to have a chat with Ezekiel. Nothing strange going on here folks.

I agree... there is so much science is learning and adapting to finding possibilities based on a statement that might be in error.

For an example, what if as in (Enormous water reservoir found in space is bigger than 140 trillion earth oceans ) water surrounded the earth? There would be no evidence if it melted and fell to the earth adding to the water that is currently found.

Or what if a catastrophic magnitude 10 earthquake that unleashed the water under the earth and jetted mountains?

Regardless of "what if's" every major religion said it happened. Did everyone have a pizza burn and just thought it up? Or was it relating a real event and translated into every religion

 

[Twilight Hue]

It is annoying to me that so much talk around Religion seems bent on making it either too mysterious, or false.

Then there is just a great deal about the Science world that seems theoretical and perhaps not for the common folk.

I'd suggest that so many things that we do not understand appears that way simply because we try to ignore anything that occurs outside our very limiting three dimensional existence. In my world, so much of what goes on in the Bible and Quran that seems mysterious and forbidden to us could simply be a bit of bleed over from other dimensions.

I'm frustrated that so much of what has gone on in the distant past is subject to attempts to write it off as too loony to have happened. Right now, I am thinking of the Old Testament, and the pointless discussion about whether the burning bush, the flood, or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah happened.

As far as the flood is concerned, there are scientists who postulate that there is 5 to 7 times the amount of water in the oceans submerged deep in the rock below. So perhaps it is likely that the flood could have happened very easily, as in the Biblical description?

One of my favorite incidents is what happened in the book of Ezekiel? Scholars see it as either not real or too holy and mysterious to be discussed. For me, a previously unseen being that just flew his dimensionally shifting craft in to have a chat with Ezekiel. Nothing strange going on here folks.

The interesting thing about dimensions is there is always attention on higher dimensions. If such planes of existence are a reality, then why can't we ourselves locate and enter a 2nd dimensional plane and observe the inhabitants?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I agree... there is so much science is learning and adapting to finding possibilities based on a statement that might be in error.

For an example, what if as in (Enormous water reservoir found in space is bigger than 140 trillion earth oceans ) water surrounded the earth? There would be no evidence if it melted and fell to the earth adding to the water that is currently found.

Or what if a catastrophic magnitude 10 earthquake that unleashed the water under the earth and jetted mountains?

Regardless of "what if's" every major religion said it happened. Did everyone have a pizza burn and just thought it up? Or was it relating a real event and translated into every religion

And it can easily be shown that water from space would cook Noah and company too. As I said, any source that you rely on will cook Noah and then you have the problem of explaining where it went to.

 

[Ellen Brown]

I agree... there is so much science is learning and adapting to finding possibilities based on a statement that might be in error.

For an example, what if as in (Enormous water reservoir found in space is bigger than 140 trillion earth oceans ) water surrounded the earth? There would be no evidence if it melted and fell to the earth adding to the water that is currently found.

Or what if a catastrophic magnitude 10 earthquake that unleashed the water under the earth and jetted mountains?

Regardless of "what if's" every major religion said it happened. Did everyone have a pizza burn and just thought it up? Or was it relating a real event and translated into every religion

I once read an article that said much of the water on Earth came in by Asteroids. Apparently this is still happening today, um Summat.

 

[Revoltingest]

I once read an article that said much of the water on Earth came in by Asteroids. Apparently this is still happening today, um Summat.

From comets I'd say.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I once read an article that said much of the water on Earth came in by Asteroids. Apparently this is still happening today, um Summat.

The asteroids that formed the Earth were probably the source of its water. There are several different types of asteroids and some have measurable water in them. It was thought at one time that it may have come from comets since they are mostly ice, but a isotopic analysis of the water in comets indicates that they are not the source of our water.

 

[Subduction Zone]

From comets I'd say.

Too high of a percentage of deuterium:

Most of Earth's Water Came from Asteroids, Not Comets

 

[Revoltingest]

Too high of a percentage of deuterium:

Most of Earth's Water Came from Asteroids, Not Comets

At least the snowballs contributed (per the article).

 

[Brickjectivity]

Forgive the length. My position that I wish to share is that Genesis is about masculine and feminine and is *not* intended as a scientific or historical account. Its an anti-egyptian story.

The Torah is written to change men mostly, not so much women although women do have some Torah. There are prayers for the women and some laws for them, but masculinity and machismo is blamed for the most of the violence in the world which is what the Torah focuses on stopping - violence. The Torah focuses upon transforming the men, making men more peaceful. Its men who must be circumcised, men who much make sure to learn and teach the Torah. In the Pentateuch and the rest of the Torah many usages of Egypt are retained in order to upset the underlying assumptions. Egyptians believed in strength that the phallus symbolized it. Its important to know that English translators have substituted some euphemisms into the Bible to clean it up, but this obscurs it worse than it already is. Where the Bible reads 'Heart' it usually is actually the word 'Bowels', and where the word is 'Stiffnecked' it actually means 'Horny'. When a man in the Bible has success in battle it says his "Horn is lifted up." It is weird today but basically common in ancient times in Egypt to associate the power of warriors with the penises, potency, sexual ability and youth. This affects Bible usages. The people who die in the Desert in the Exodus story are 'Horny' not 'Stiffnecked' as the English translations call it. This is because in those times all the world except for Jews -- all the surrounding countries besides them -- consider masculinity to be the epitome of humanity and warfare to be its supreme expression. The Torah says 'No' to this and says masculinity and violence are not the epitome, not the model. It is not trying to make men be 'Gay' but is just rejecting the idea that a man should always be tough, scary, dangerous, oppressive etc.

I want to comment on your opening post but first to get an idea of what I am talking about consider the story of Sampson in the book Judges. Sampson is the strongest man in the world, miraculously strong; but Sampson trusts too much in his own (masculine) strength and is conquered. His strength is his weakness. He should have trusted in the LORD. He is defeated by the Philistines but not by men but by a woman. The symbolism is kind of weird, but in order to get his strength back he must grow his hair long. Sampson one day encounters a dead lion with a beehive full of bees in its carcass and from this (very symbolic image) comes up with a riddle. He gives us this answer to a riddle "Out of the strong something sweet, out of the eater came forth meat." The answer to the riddle is "What is sweeter than honey? What is stronger than a lion?" Honey we know from Psalm 19 is often referring to the Torah and to the feminine 'Shekinah' or 'Holy Spirit' as we Christians call it. The theme of Sampson's story is indeed "What is stronger?" The answer is "Not man's strength."

This ties into your remarks about Genesis. "A man," the Torah indirectly says "Must put away his own strength and become like a woman. He must not be like Esau the macho man but more like Jacob the man who is weaker. He must not be violent and vengeful like Levi but peaceful and resourceful like Joseph. He must not be like Cain but instead like Abel."

Now what happens in Genesis is all about this. It deals with the male and the female and peace and violence. I don't personally know or understand all of the symbolism, however I know that it takes the already established Egyptian symbols and antiquates them. The story of the Tree and of the Serpent are much, much older than Genesis. Genesis takes them and stomps all over their original message of violence and machismo above all else. For example in Egyptian war culture the sky is Nut and the dark underword is another god who is masculine. Genesis messes about with these male and female symbols and just tortures them and shreds them. It says both are water that been divided and the land is in between, etc. Genesis goes on and on about male and female, violence and peace. Its so unlikely that it was ever, ever, ever supposed to be taken as a scientific account of creation. Its really just ridiculous that we have people saying that it ever was.

That picture is older than the Bible.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

I was driving south from Fossil, Oregon, on Thursday, and it would be dark in another hour. I'd just had a range grown Ribeye Rare, well half of it, and my thirst for blood was sated. Much of the time driving out there, I turn off all the electronic media and commune with the creation around me. The eighth Moon and Mars floated above me and would set in a while. Rounding a bend, I startled a Doe, but she did not jump in front of me as they are sometimes wont to do.

Around here is the Old Country, laid bare in often deeply eroded canyons. Fossils from a once verdant sea laid barely buried or completely exposed.

After a while, I turned on the Radio, only to hear someone piteously wailing about the pure and risen Jesus Christ. I don't have issue with the Christ, but the wailing and ridiculous caterwauling caused me to punch the off button in grief. It was that sort who cast me out to be consumed by satan for what they'd imagined I'd done. The truth was not spicy and lurid enough for them.

Presently, the Sun set, and the driving began that demanded complete alertness, as I headed out to Prineville, Or. In that country at night, I reduce my speed to not much about 45 mph, and drive with my brights on. I can often go for a half hour, or more without seeing another car, but the Deer, Elk and others that reside out there have no lights. Often if I find an open spot with exposure to the sky, I'll stop to watch the glorious march of the Heavenly bodies that dwell there. Sometimes I wish they would speak to me and tell me of their lives. If the Lord and I converse, it is mostly quiet, compelling and sometimes easily missed.

I park my car back in PDX half past midnight, and sleep late.

Tonight I'll seek to pacify my Editor, and try to write another installment of a soppy romance about an almost young widow who has hired a companion, escort to take her to dinner and the movies. Oh, what will they get up to that is permissible?

What a heartfelt summary of your experience!
Isn’t it often the little things like nature, ie., Free, that give us the most enjoyment? It is wonderful that you take the time to enjoy them. My wife and I do the same many times, awestruck by the grandiose of the sky, and fascinated by the tiniest, delicate flowers! It was meant to be that way.

Imagine when Isaiah 11:6-9 gets fulfilled! We’re gonna play and sleep with tigers!

 

[Kenny]

And it can easily be shown that water from space would cook Noah and company too. As I said, any source that you rely on will cook Noah and then you have the problem of explaining where it went to.

Really?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Really?

Of course. All it takes is an ability to do a little math. How much water do you need from space?

 

[Kenny]

Of course. All it takes is an ability to do a little math. How much water do you need from space?

Enough to create a mist that waters the earth. How much water would there be, not in space, but just enough to have a mist covering the earth?

Do the math:

If you do the math, that is about 56,000 gallons of water in one cubic mile of fog.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Enough to create a mist that waters the earth. How much water would there be, not in space, but just enough to have a mist covering the earth?

Do the math:

If you do the math, that is about 56,000 gallons of water in one cubic mile of fog.

No, not nearly good enough. How are you going to cover the mountains as per the myth. Everest is more than five miles high.

 

[Kenny]

No, not nearly good enough. How are you going to cover the mountains as per the myth. Everest is more than five miles high.

Everest has sharp peaks, new mountain. Catastrophic earthquakes touching off volcanic activity beyond our comprehension?

And you didn't want to do the math?

After all... was there a catastrophic event that killed all the dinosaurs millennium before? Or are you of the position that those things don't happen?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Everest has sharp peaks, new mountain. Catastrophic earthquakes touching off volcanic activity beyond our comprehension?

And you didn't want to do the math?

After all... was there a catastrophic event that killed all the dinosaurs millennium before? Or are you of the position that those things don't happen?

Sorry, but the dinosaurs died off roughly 65 million years ago. The Flood myth is supposed to be a recent event.