Life beyond Earth has finally been found; or so it seems

[james dixon]

There could be life there, but this evidence is not by any means conclusive, and is hardly even suggestive...

Life beyond Earth has finally been found; or so it seems


Noon Titan

Building Block for 'Vinyl Life' Found on Saturn's Moon Titan

When winter comes to Titan’s poles, it brings seasonal downpours of toxic molecules that could, under the right conditions, assemble themselves into structures like the biological membranes that encase living cells on Earth.

Called vinyl cyanide, those molecules are created high in Titan’s atmosphere, and now, scientists know there’s a truckload of them tucked int

o the moon’s orange haze that probably rain down on its icy surface.

More than 10 billion tons of it could be floating in Ligeia Mare, the second-largest lake in the north, according to the paper

published today in Science Advances.

https://tinyurl.com/y8nysjkc

Noon Enceladus

Enceladus has attracted a lot of interest because it has an active pole that spews jets of material into outer space. During its last flyby over that pole, an instrument on board the Cassini spacecraft detected the presence of a biomarker—molecular hydrogen. This suggests that the ocean we know lies beneath the moon’s surface could indeed contain an ecosystem similar to the ones we find in deep-sea hydrothermal vents on Earth.

Hunter Waite, a researcher at the Southwestern Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas, is the lead author of a paper describing the findings in an upcoming issue of Science. In the piece, the team explains that the molecular hydrogen (H2) content was measured using Cassini’s INMS instrument, a mass spectrometer capable of sniffing the molecular composition of gas that it captures.

A global ocean lies beneath the icy crust of Saturn's geologically active moon Enceladus, according to new research using data from NASA's Cassini mission.

Researchers found the magnitude of the moon's very slight wobble, as it orbits Saturn, can only be accounted for if its outer ice shell is not frozen solid to its interior, meaning a global ocean must be present.

The finding implies the fine spray of water vapor, icy particles and simple organic molecules Cassini has observed coming from fractures near the moon's south pole is being fed by this vast liquid water reservoir. The research is presented in a paper published online this week in the journal Icarus.

Astrophysicists working with NASA's Saturn sweeping Cassini spacecraft have just announced that Enceladus has a warm ocean at its southern pole with ongoing hydrothermal activity—the first ever discovered outside of Earth. This new research, published in the journal Nature, builds upon last year's discovery of the moon's 6-mile-deep ocean, which is also believed to contain many of the chemicals commonly associated with life.

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/pia19656_labeled.jpg

Dione is the moon at the top~~
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/dione

 

[DavidFirth]

I told Scotty not to dump the head on that moon!

 

[Milton Platt]

Life beyond Earth has finally been found; or so it seems​

There is a moon circling Saturn that has a warm core, covered in ice and spewing geysers. With a green hew around the geyser points.

Explanation: This cylindrical projection global map is one of six new color maps of Saturn's midsized icy moons, constructed using 10 years of image data from the Cassini spacecraft. Discovered by Cassini (the astronomer) in 1684, Dione is about 1,120 kilometers across. Based on data extending from infrared to ultraviolet, the full resolution of this latest space-age map is 250 meters per pixel. The remarkable brightness difference between the tidally locked moon's lighter leading hemisphere (right) and darker trailing hemisphere clearly stands out. Like other Saturn moons orbiting within the broad E-ring, Dione's leading hemisphere is kept shiny as it picks up a coating of the faint ring's icy material. The E-ring material is constantly replenished by geysers on moon Enceladus' south pole. Lighter, younger surface fractures also appear to cross the dark, cratered trailing hemisphere.


Saturn's moon Cassini

https://tinyurl.com/yc3pyhlw

https://tinyurl.com/y7ag455x

Is this life or not-?

Nobody knows.......but most likely not.

 

[james dixon]

Nobody knows.......but most likely not.

The chance for life existing on one of these moons is as you put it, most likely not; which leaves room for a maybe

 

[Milton Platt]

The chance for life existing on one of these moons is as you put it, most likely not; which leaves room for a maybe

Sure......I just don't think the "evidence" presented in the OP bears out such a belief in this instance.

 

[james dixon]

Noon Enceladus

Enceladus has attracted a lot of interest because it has an active pole that spews jets of material into outer space. During its last flyby over that pole, an instrument on board the Cassini spacecraft detected the presence of a biomarker—molecular hydrogen. This suggests that the ocean we know lies beneath the moon’s surface could indeed contain an ecosystem similar to the ones we find in deep-sea hydrothermal vents on Earth.

Hunter Waite, a researcher at the Southwestern Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas, is the lead author of a paper describing the findings in an upcoming issue of Science. In the piece, the team explains that the molecular hydrogen (H2) content was measured using Cassini’s INMS instrument, a mass spectrometer capable of sniffing the molecular composition of gas that it captures.

A global ocean lies beneath the icy crust of Saturn's geologically active moon Enceladus, according to new research using data from NASA's Cassini mission.

Researchers found the magnitude of the moon's very slight wobble, as it orbits Saturn, can only be accounted for if its outer ice shell is not frozen solid to its interior, meaning a global ocean must be present.

The finding implies the fine spray of water vapor, icy particles and simple organic molecules Cassini has observed coming from fractures near the moon's south pole is being fed by this vast liquid water reservoir. The research is presented in a paper published online this week in the journal Icarus.

Astrophysicists working with NASA's Saturn sweeping Cassini spacecraft have just announced that Enceladus has a warm ocean at its southern pole with ongoing hydrothermal activity—the first ever discovered outside of Earth. This new research, published in the journal Nature, builds upon last year's discovery of the moon's 6-mile-deep ocean, which is also believed to contain many of the chemicals commonly associated with life.

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/pia19656_labeled.jpg

 

[james dixon]

 

[DavidFirth]

So every time we see something that appears to be a green blurb on a moon or planet we conclude it is most likely alive or was alive? Ridiculous. Yet just another assumption made by scientists who will for the assumptions they make to be reality.

 

[james dixon]

seashells found on mount Everest

seashells found on mount everest - Google Search

 

[james dixon]

I don’t think people are looking at this in the right way. What we need to be looking for are signs of intelligent life. The kind of thing our astronauts see when they look down on earth. During the night our freeways are full of cars giving off ribbons of light that wind and whorl across our planet. And our cities give off clusters of light. If we can find a planet that shows glimmers of light on its dark side, like above, we found life!!!

Then there is the green that doesn’t go away!@!!!

Cassini Legacy: 1997-2017 : The Moon with the Plume

https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/internal_resources/822

 

[james dixon]

 

[Milton Platt]

So every time we see something that appears to be a green blurb on a moon or planet we conclude it is most likely alive or was alive? Ridiculous. Yet just another assumption made by scientists who will for the assumptions they make to be reality.

The media might have said that, i doubt that is what the scientists said.

 

[Milton Platt]

I don’t think people are looking at this in the right way. What we need to be looking for are signs of intelligent life. The kind of thing our astronauts see when they look down on earth. During the night our freeways are full of cars giving off ribbons of light that wind and whorl across our planet. And our cities give off clusters of light. If we can find a planet that shows glimmers of light on its dark side, like above, we found life!!!

Then there is the green that doesn’t go away!@!!!

Cassini Legacy: 1997-2017 : The Moon with the Plume

https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/internal_resources/822

There are no astronauts looking down on planets in other solar systems...the distances are mindbogglingly huge to other solar systems. We ar not going to see lights from car headlights and cities at that distance. We don't have the resolution to make the distinction.

 

[shunyadragon]

seashells found on mount Everest

seashells found on mount everest - Google Search

So what!??!? Whats your point?

Fossils of marine life are found where ever there are formations of Marine limestone, shale and Sandstone that formed in the seas of the world millions of years ago..

 

[Polymath257]

I don’t think people are looking at this in the right way. What we need to be looking for are signs of intelligent life. The kind of thing our astronauts see when they look down on earth. During the night our freeways are full of cars giving off ribbons of light that wind and whorl across our planet. And our cities give off clusters of light. If we can find a planet that shows glimmers of light on its dark side, like above, we found life!!!

And which extra-solar planets do you think we can do this with? Given that we have not yet been able to image even the planets themselves, let alone the possible lights on such planets?

We at least no there are no car running around the planets orbiting the sun. We know there aren't any on any of the moons. So, there is no technological life *in our solar system* except for us. There might well be other *life*, as in bacterial life, on some of the moons and perhaps there was/is on Mars.

But we don't have anybody 'looking down' from a place where we could detect cities on any other planet. Nor are our telescopes powerful enough to do so.

 

[Polymath257]

So? Do you see any cities there?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Life beyond Earth has finally been found; or so it seems​

There is a moon circling Saturn that has a warm core, covered in ice and spewing geysers. With a green hew around the geyser points.

Explanation: This cylindrical projection global map is one of six new color maps of Saturn's midsized icy moons, constructed using 10 years of image data from the Cassini spacecraft. Discovered by Cassini (the astronomer) in 1684, Dione is about 1,120 kilometers across. Based on data extending from infrared to ultraviolet, the full resolution of this latest space-age map is 250 meters per pixel. The remarkable brightness difference between the tidally locked moon's lighter leading hemisphere (right) and darker trailing hemisphere clearly stands out. Like other Saturn moons orbiting within the broad E-ring, Dione's leading hemisphere is kept shiny as it picks up a coating of the faint ring's icy material. The E-ring material is constantly replenished by geysers on moon Enceladus' south pole. Lighter, younger surface fractures also appear to cross the dark, cratered trailing hemisphere.


Saturn's moon Cassini

https://tinyurl.com/yc3pyhlw

https://tinyurl.com/y7ag455x

Is this life or not-?

Many people far smarter than you or me are still quite convinced that the Viking mission to Mars found life back in the '70s. Just out of interest. Viking lander biological experiments - Wikipedia

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I still say we should bore a hole through the ice on Europa and dump a bunch of Sea Monkeys down the hole.

 

[Shad]

Even if there were live we shouldn't ignore the monolith's warnings.

 

[james dixon]

Folks, we now know that there are millions of solar systems just like ours. And out there somewhere there is life. I believe there is life far advanced to ours & they have noticed our existence. I truly believe "they" are watching us right now. They may be doing things to help us along. Take geneses for instance. The writers of geneses must have had some help.

Genesis was first put to print in 1611BC

Now put yourself in that time frame. A time before the oceans and the American continent had been discovered. Does the information stated below seem a bit out of place for that time frame--?

The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,

in the image of God he created them;

male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

It is clear to me that the authors of Geneses had some help and it wasn’t from some bird tweeting to them from some window sill.