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Libertarian faith
- Thread starter willy1590
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This is an interesting question.
I'm curious about the responses.
Some LHP types strike me as leaning this way.
Could you give me 5 points about libertarian theology so I have a better grasp on what you mean, please? :help:
willy1590
Member
Libertarianism refers to the group of political philosophies that emphasize freedom, liberty, and voluntary association.quote-wikipedia
Werd, I'm actually a registered Libertarian. That is why I asked about how you applied it to theology and the like.
I'd say the UUs would be good for ya'.
Quakers too. They aren't always purely Christian if you go to a liberal group.
And as Storm said the UCC is pretty friendly for a specifically Christian group.
I think some 'eastern' paths might suit you as well, if you're looking that direction.
Thanks for your reply.
What's your hope for the answer here?
I'd say the UUs would be good for ya'.
Quakers too. They aren't always purely Christian if you go to a liberal group.
And as Storm said the UCC is pretty friendly for a specifically Christian group.
I think some 'eastern' paths might suit you as well, if you're looking that direction.
Thanks for your reply.
What's your hope for the answer here?
Yea, for sure there are.
Unitarians Universalists aren't 'Abrahamic' by code, but there are people there who might find some worth in the faiths from Abraham. But you'll also meet people from every other non/theistic idea you can imagine. It was truly a place of growth for me.
There is also many many many other Non-Abrahmic traditions around the world.
I'm not 100% sure how many episodes there are of this show, but perhaps you'll enjoy it.
They are all there, the episodes, you just have to search up the next one.
[youtube]d7_gCN5WA3g[/youtube]
Around the World in 80 Faiths - Episode One - Australasia and the Pacific Ring of Fire - HQ - YouTube
Now, this little quiz is more for fun than anything I think, but it does touch on overlaps between you and how these faiths are represented by the quiz writers, from a moderate standpoint.
It's NOT to tell you what you ARE. It's merely for over lap. Just seeing who has what in common.
But it's worth while for chewing on and thinking about.
Beliefnet.net's Belief-0-matic
I hope you weren't slighted by Abrahmic faiths at any point.
And you can go searching in peace.
:namaste
SageTree
Unitarians Universalists aren't 'Abrahamic' by code, but there are people there who might find some worth in the faiths from Abraham. But you'll also meet people from every other non/theistic idea you can imagine. It was truly a place of growth for me.
There is also many many many other Non-Abrahmic traditions around the world.
I'm not 100% sure how many episodes there are of this show, but perhaps you'll enjoy it.
They are all there, the episodes, you just have to search up the next one.
[youtube]d7_gCN5WA3g[/youtube]
Around the World in 80 Faiths - Episode One - Australasia and the Pacific Ring of Fire - HQ - YouTube
Now, this little quiz is more for fun than anything I think, but it does touch on overlaps between you and how these faiths are represented by the quiz writers, from a moderate standpoint.
It's NOT to tell you what you ARE. It's merely for over lap. Just seeing who has what in common.
But it's worth while for chewing on and thinking about.
Beliefnet.net's Belief-0-matic
I hope you weren't slighted by Abrahmic faiths at any point.
And you can go searching in peace.
:namaste
SageTree
work in progress
Well-Known Member
Wait! If we're talking about Christian Libertarianism, isn't this the American based theological framework behind the market being the ultimate arbitrator for economic rewards and punishments? IN other words -- if you're wealthy, it is a sign that your personal attributes are exemplary (and it may be a sign of divine blessing in the case of Prosperity Gospel theology), while poverty and suffering are a sign of lack of character and laziness. Pretty much upending traditional Christian theology that looked on the wealthy with suspicion that they were full of greed and concern only for building up treasures in this world, while the poor were blessed and promised with a better life in the afterworld.
If that has any connection to "libertarian faith" then I would consider it to be the cancer that is poisoning the world we now live in and preventing the world from coming together to deal with the problems that are pushing the human race towards extinction.
I haven't mentioned it previously in any thread comments, but as someone who grew up long before the age of the internet, I think that our new online world of Facebook friends, and online relationships has been a huge influence in pushing towards self-centered libertarian thinking that thinks only of individual freedoms, and gives little thought to responsibilities towards others.
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So are you basically looking for religions that are really accepting?
Dingbat
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I guess that is what he is getting at but I am not entirely sure. Since Abrahamic Faiths have been ruled out all I can suggest are the various Dharmic Faiths such as Hinduism/Buddhism/Sikhism and Paganism.
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I'm gonna have to agree on Paganism, the Dharmic religions are socially liberal but towards oneself I'd say not so much. LHP faiths are definitely liberal, although I'm not quite sure on Setianism. Deism is mostly. Come to think of it, I can't think of any religion that is restricting outside of Abrahamic religions, then again even those have moderates.
dust1n
Zindīq
Taoism would certainly apply.
Tao Te Ching:
Part 8:
"The supreme good is like water,
which nourishes all things without trying to.
It is content with the low places that people disdain.
Thus it is like the Tao.
In dwelling, live close to the ground.
In thinking, keep to the simple.
In conflict, be fair and generous.
In governing, don't try to control.
In work, do what you enjoy.
In family life, be completely present.
When you are content to be simply yourself
and don't compare or compete,
everybody will respect you."
17
"When the Master governs, the people
are hardly aware that he exists.
Next best is a leader who is loved.
Next, one who is feared.
The worst is one who is despised.
If you don't trust the people,
you make them untrustworthy.
The Master doesn't talk, he acts.
When his work is done,
the people say, 'Amazing:
we did it, all by ourselves!'"
30
"Whoever relies on the Tao in governing men
doesn't try to force issues
or defeat enemies by force of arms.
For every force there is a counterforce.
Violence, even well intentioned,
always rebounds upon oneself.
The Master does his job
and then stops.
He understands that the universe
is forever out of control,
and that trying to dominate events
goes against the current of the Tao.
Because he believes in himself,
he doesn't try to convince others.
Because he is content with himself,
he doesn't need others' approval.
Because he accepts himself,
the whole world accepts him."
31
"Weapons are the tools of violence;
all decent men detest them.
Weapons are the tools of fear;
a decent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.
Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?
His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.
He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men?
He enters a battle gravely,
with sorrow and with great compassion,
as if he were attending a funeral."
Lots of different translations. Here's the one I quoted from:
Tao Te Ching
Tao Te Ching:
Part 8:
"The supreme good is like water,
which nourishes all things without trying to.
It is content with the low places that people disdain.
Thus it is like the Tao.
In dwelling, live close to the ground.
In thinking, keep to the simple.
In conflict, be fair and generous.
In governing, don't try to control.
In work, do what you enjoy.
In family life, be completely present.
When you are content to be simply yourself
and don't compare or compete,
everybody will respect you."
17
"When the Master governs, the people
are hardly aware that he exists.
Next best is a leader who is loved.
Next, one who is feared.
The worst is one who is despised.
If you don't trust the people,
you make them untrustworthy.
The Master doesn't talk, he acts.
When his work is done,
the people say, 'Amazing:
we did it, all by ourselves!'"
30
"Whoever relies on the Tao in governing men
doesn't try to force issues
or defeat enemies by force of arms.
For every force there is a counterforce.
Violence, even well intentioned,
always rebounds upon oneself.
The Master does his job
and then stops.
He understands that the universe
is forever out of control,
and that trying to dominate events
goes against the current of the Tao.
Because he believes in himself,
he doesn't try to convince others.
Because he is content with himself,
he doesn't need others' approval.
Because he accepts himself,
the whole world accepts him."
31
"Weapons are the tools of violence;
all decent men detest them.
Weapons are the tools of fear;
a decent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.
Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?
His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.
He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men?
He enters a battle gravely,
with sorrow and with great compassion,
as if he were attending a funeral."
Lots of different translations. Here's the one I quoted from:
Tao Te Ching
Jain
Member
Jainism