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[LHP] The Western Left Hand

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
I'm going to just post this here and leave it, it is my opinion as I feel it adequately defines everything succinctly.
Feel free to debate.
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The Western LHP does not involve heterodoxy practices and in no way integrates the ego / psyche / soul etc. into anything divine outside of one's higher Self, which is all the Western LHP adherent recognizes . . . Self. The Western LHP does approach non-union with the objective universe through antinomian practices.

While in Western LHP traditions there is no integration into the divine, in fact there is separation from anything perceived as such and the strengthening of one's isolate intelligence. The Western LHP seek to be their own gods without the need for personal instructions or permissions.

Perennial philosophy is the understanding that all the world's 'RHP' religions share a single, universal doctrine. This doctrine posits that the highest good that human life can achieve is through the union with a Supreme Being / Energy of the Universe or some divine derivative of.

The way in which this is achieved is through what the Western LHP recognize as White Magick, which is a deception of one's conscious awareness into believing that one has been accepted by this Supreme Being / Energy otherwise known as the objective universe.

This is not the stance one takes on the Western LHP, the objective universe is seen as it plainly is, a non-conscious, unintelligent memetic mechanism composed of Time, Space & Matter. To absolve one's self into this is antithetic to the Western LHP goals of individuation and autotheism.
 
How very creative. Why did you name your personal creation 'left hand path' when that term has already been around thousands of years and means something completely different? Seems unnecessarily confusing.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
How very creative. Why did you name your personal creation 'left hand path' when that term has already been around thousands of years and means something completely different? Seems unnecessarily confusing.
If you understood what was written you would have seen I used the words Western LHP not LHP, but you don't and you did not
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
This definition allows separation from the Eastern traditions and aligns with the practices and philosophy behind several Western Occult organizations.

It is certainly the foundation of non-theistic Luciferianism and Mercuraenism if not Setian and many forms of Satanism.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
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The Western LHP does not involve heterodoxy practices and in no way integrates the ego / psyche / soul etc. into anything divine outside of one's higher Self, which is all the Western LHP adherent recognizes . . . Self. The Western LHP does approach non-union with the objective universe through antinomian practices.

While in Western LHP traditions there is no integration into the divine, in fact there is separation from anything perceived as such and the strengthening of one's isolate intelligence. The Western LHP seek to be their own gods without the need for personal instructions or permissions.

Perennial philosophy is the understanding that all the world's 'RHP' religions share a single, universal doctrine. This doctrine posits that the highest good that human life can achieve is through the union with a Supreme Being / Energy of the Universe or some divine derivative of.

The way in which this is achieved is through what the Western LHP recognize as White Magick, which is a deception of one's conscious awareness into believing that one has been accepted by this Supreme Being / Energy otherwise known as the objective universe.

This is not the stance one takes on the Western LHP, the objective universe is seen as it plainly is, a non-conscious, unintelligent memetic mechanism composed of Time, Space & Matter. To absolve one's self into this is antithetic to the Western LHP goals of individuation and autotheism.
Individualism as the cornerstone.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
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The Western LHP does not involve heterodoxy practices and in no way integrates the ego / psyche / soul etc. into anything divine outside of one's higher Self, which is all the Western LHP adherent recognizes . . . Self. The Western LHP does approach non-union with the objective universe through antinomian practices.
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The practice of heterodoxy as a group is invoking mob mentality, which is contraindicative to individualism. It is simply breaking down individual conscience by a different means than that which is employed by orthodoxy.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
The practice of heterodoxy as a group is invoking mob mentality, which is contraindicative to individualism. It is simply breaking down individual conscience by a different means than that which is employed by orthodoxy.
I figured this time around I would stay away from defining anything except the WLHP . . . see what happens
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
I'm going to just post this here and leave it, it is my opinion as I feel it adequately defines everything succinctly.
Feel free to debate.
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The Western LHP does not involve heterodoxy practices and in no way integrates the ego / psyche / soul etc. into anything divine outside of one's higher Self, which is all the Western LHP adherent recognizes . . . Self. The Western LHP does approach non-union with the objective universe through antinomian practices.

While in Western LHP traditions there is no integration into the divine, in fact there is separation from anything perceived as such and the strengthening of one's isolate intelligence. The Western LHP seek to be their own gods without the need for personal instructions or permissions.

Perennial philosophy is the understanding that all the world's 'RHP' religions share a single, universal doctrine. This doctrine posits that the highest good that human life can achieve is through the union with a Supreme Being / Energy of the Universe or some divine derivative of.

The way in which this is achieved is through what the Western LHP recognize as White Magick, which is a deception of one's conscious awareness into believing that one has been accepted by this Supreme Being / Energy otherwise known as the objective universe.

This is not the stance one takes on the Western LHP, the objective universe is seen as it plainly is, a non-conscious, unintelligent memetic mechanism composed of Time, Space & Matter. To absolve one's self into this is antithetic to the Western LHP goals of individuation and autotheism.

I think most of this is spot on, thanks EtuMalku. However, I don't understand how Western LHP does not involve heterodoxy in your definition?
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
The practice of heterodoxy as a group is invoking mob mentality, which is contraindicative to individualism. It is simply breaking down individual conscience by a different means than that which is employed by orthodoxy.

I disagree with this, a heterodox belief system by its very nature does not conform to traditional mass belief systems. Such as Setian philosophy and Satanism do not conform to and are antithetical to the more widely popular religions such as Christianity and Islam. The Left-Hand Path is heterodox.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
I disagree with this, a heterodox belief system by its very nature does not conform to traditional mass belief systems. Such as Setian philosophy and Satanism do not conform to and are antithetical to the more widely popular religions such as Christianity and Islam. The Left-Hand Path is heterodox.
I'm referring to heterodoxy as a group practice--breaking the law for the sake of breaking the law.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Lol. I understand what was written alright. The same crap you have been going on about for months now, and you still haven't learned a thing.

Oh...my...Infernal Hell! SSE, when are you going to finally understand that your opinions and understandings are your own, and may not necessarily reflect or be agreed upon by your individualist colleges on the LHP? What is your gripe? You always seem to come off as angry and frustrated when we don't all agree with your world view. Its time to man up dude and recognize that we are all on our own, some may agree and some may disagree, all we can do is present our philosophy to the masses and hope that they can distinguish from the reality of the real world -- non-fiction and fiction.
 
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crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Well, now that this is in the Same Faith Debate section, is this for Western LHP (which is specifically what the thread is addressing) or just LHP in general?
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Since this is now in the Same Faith Debate section, I will start by posting some of the definitions of LHP from different Western Left Hand Path Orders for comparison. This is the Philosophy of the Order of Dragon Rouge: Main points: Antinomianism and Self-Deification through self transformation, being reborn as an individual in relation to existance.

The philosophy of Dragon Rouge consists of the left hand path and its ideology. The left hand path is based on a philosophy which defines two main spiritual paths. One is the right hand path. It has influenced most forms of religion and mass movements. Its method is the light magic and its goal is the annihilation of the individual and to become one with God. The other path is the left hand path. It denotes the unique, the deviant and the exclusive. Its method is the dark magic and antinomianism (to go against the grain). The dark magical goal is to become a god.


The left hand path and dark magic is not a path of salvation that anyone can accomplish. For most people the established religions are more suitable. The left hand path is a demanding path that takes for granted that the adept is prepared to be disciplined, patient, responsible and courageous. We are strongly dissuading psychically unstable persons from taking this path. The same goes for people who are interpreting the philosophy as if we are now already gods and able to do our free will. To reach a free will and thus become like a god is a goal. We are not gods. We can become gods. In this aspect Dragon Rouge differs from many esoterists, new age ideologists and satanists who believe that we are already gods and do just have to realize it. We believe that we are carrying the divine inside us like a potential, but that we can only awake and develop this side through hard initiatoric training.

Man can pass through two births. In connection with the first birth we become individuals in relation to the mother. We are born physically. The light religions are preaching a return to the child state where one gives up freedom, will and responsibility to gain safety. Man can pass through another birth. In connection with his one we become individuals in relation to existence. We are leaving a life predetermined by outer conditions and are reaching a free will. Instead of being creations we become creators. Initiation rites among shamans, witches and magical societies have through the ages been a path to this second birth. The goal of the initiatoric magic of Dragon Rouge is a second birth and a self creation process that leads to the divinity of the individual.​
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crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Here is the philosophy of The Temple of Set: This is a long page, so I will highlight the main points: Separating Man from the rest of Nature, Antinomianism, Individualism, Self Control, and Black Magic quoted as the following:
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BLACK MAGIC
Followers of the Left-Hand Path practice what, in a specific and technical sense, we term Black Magic. Black Magic focuses on self-determined goals. Its formula is "my will be done", as opposed to the White Magic of the Right-Hand Path, whose formula is "thy will be done".

Black Magic is shunned and feared because to do Black Magic is to take full responsibility for one's actions, evolution, and effectiveness.

Since magic enables you to influence or change events in ways neither understood nor anticipated by society, you must develop a sound and sophisticated appreciation for the ethics governing your own motives, decisions, and actions before you put it to use. To use magic for impulsive, trivial, or egoistic desires is not Setian. It must become second-nature to you to carefully pre-evaluate the consequences of what you wish to do, then choose the course of wisdom, justice, and creative improvement.​
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crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
I checked on The Order of Phosphorus and found it was rather philosophically convoluted (not surprisingly.) Main focus is on the Awakening of the Self. Here is their link.

So, I will then post the 11 Luciferian Points of Power as written by the founder of The Order of Phosphorus for The Greater Church of Lucifer: Main points: individualism, self-awakening, self liberation, becoming your own god/apotheosis, questioning everything (antinomianism.)


1. Lucifer represents the light of intellect, wisdom and power unique to each individual with the courage to ascend to this responsibility.

2. The symbol of the Adversary is that of the self-liberator and spiritual rebel who inspires self-evolution.

3. Lucifer represents the balanced torch bearer of Venus: the Light Bringer as the Morning Star and the Night Bringer as the Evening Star.

4. The Adversary symbolizes the spark of consciousness which questions everything, manifesting the individualistic path with accountability only to the self.

5. The fall of Lucifer or Satan symbolizes the liberation of the mind from the slave-mentality and the courage to explore and master the darkness within. One may not offer the illumination of the Morning Star without the wisdom of the darkness within.

6. The Adversary represents rebellion with purpose: wisdom, strength and power.

7. Lucifer represents the courage and fortitude to acquire healthy self-love, leading to the responsibility of honoring your temple of mind, body and spirit.

8. To become your own god you must have the wisdom and strength to govern and guide your life as if your mind is to survive beyond the mortal body.

9. Indulgence with restraint, love for the deserving and disdain for those undeserving.

10. Lucifer represents the insight that every act, no matter if perceived as selfless, is at core a selfish act. Even if helping others is your passion, the brain still receives a chemical reward triggered by the act. This is why many consider that doing good deeds in society may bring you closer to “god”. Recognize you are selfish, then see this fact in all others while observing. Accept this and then with this knowledge, make choices that would benefit not only yourself but your loved ones’ when possible.

11. To become a god is to fully understand that you possess the power to create and sustain your path in life and illuminate the light of self-determined potential.

– written for the Greater Church of Lucifer by Michael W. Ford​
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Anyone else want to post philosophies of specific Western Left Hand Path orders for comparison?
 
Oh...my...Infernal Hell! SSE, when are you going to finally understand that your opinions and understandings are your own, and may not necessarily reflect or be agreed upon by your individualist colleges on the LHP? What is your gripe? You always seem to come off as angry and frustrated when we don't all agree with your world view. Its time to man up dude and recognize that we are all on our own, some may agree and some may disagree, all we can do is present our philosophy to the masses and hope and trust that they can distinguish from the reality of the real world -- non-fiction and fiction.
Yes, but words mean things. Lets take a term, lets say, broccoli. Broccoli has certain property that make it what it is. its green, its a certain shape, a certain taste, and of a certain genus of plant species. Along comes Etu malku with a tub of icecream, insisting it is in fact 'western' broccoli. I guess it's just 'my worldview' that the sickly sweet desert is not in fact a vegetable of any sort, much less a specific sort, but I for one am not such a liberal bowl of intellectual jello to let such a ridiculous claim go unchallenged.
 
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