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Legalisation

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by tcprowling, Apr 5, 2007.

  1. tcprowling

    tcprowling Junior Member

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    As I read through the general discussion board here and on Other Forums, I am often left wondering what the big issue is with those against the legalisation of such things as Abortions, Euthanasia, Prostitution,some drugs,Etc.
    Ok Let me say here I don't agree with all these.
    However, I am realisitic enough to know that Legalisation does not make these things compulsory. If these issues were legalised then That gives people a choice If you don't agree with it then you don't have to use it, but it does give those who feel they need to take these options to do so in a controlled managed enviroment. Another thing that baffles me is that these issues riase so much controversy While While Gun ownership In the US is accepted so Readily.
    Any other thoughts on this?
     
  2. Mike182

    Mike182 Flaming Queer

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    i fully agree with the liberal value on these issues, let the individuals involved decide.
     
  3. BFD_Zayl

    BFD_Zayl Well-Known Member

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    .....whats Euthenasia?
     
  4. tcprowling

    tcprowling Junior Member

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    dawny0826 Mother Heathen

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    Gun ownership isn't necessarily accepted so readily in the US. Responsible citizens actually have to go through quite a bit of red tape to legally own and register a gun because of all of the morons who obtain guns illegally for crime.

    Americans have the right to bear arms and responsible citizens do so responsibly.

    I'm not too crazy at the thought of legalizing prostitution as I don't see any positives in legalizing it. I wouldn't support a political candidate who goaled to legalize it.

    I would also never support a candidate who aimed to legalize abortion and euthanasia. Especially with abortion. I don't want for someone to have the right to murder an innocent baby. As a Christian, I believe that euthanasia is a cop out.

    Opting NOT to be placed on life support is a different story.

    Drugs...I wouldn't have a problem with the legalization of marijuana as I believe it could be regulated similar to the way alcohol is regulated.

    However, I wouldn't support the legalization of other illegal drugs.

    For the most part...I believe that people SHOULD do what they want but not when their decisions can have a negative effect on the ones they love as well as society.

    Criminals will obtain guns, regardless. Strict gun regulation only violates the rights of those who responsibly purchase guns for protecting themselves...a right that they have as an American.

    Abortion...euthanasia...prostitution...legalization of cocaine, crystal meth, etc., etc....I don't see how legalizing any of these acts/things will contribute positively to society.

    Those are only my opinions. And I respect the opinions of others as well.
     
  6. tcprowling

    tcprowling Junior Member

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    Dawny I most definitely respect your opinions. I would like to know what your opinion is on the right of others to have the legal choice on all these matters as i said legalising these does not make them compulsory Mwa And NO! Dawn I am not knocking you just interested in what you have to say
     
  7. PetShopBoy88

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    I can see what the big deal is with abortion. Some think it's murder, and most except that freedom only extends as far as others are not harmed. The others, though, I don't understand either.

    I bought a gun in about fifteen minutes. It's not that much red tape.
     
  8. tcprowling

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    People this is not really about the individual issues, It really is About the legalisating of all issues such as these so as to give everybody a legal Choice.
     
  9. dawny0826

    dawny0826 Mother Heathen

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    People are compulsive anyway.

    Out of all of the behaviors/topics you mentioned...I think abortion probably heats me up more than the others.

    I think TOO many people as it is refuse to take responsibility for themselves. I don't see how legalizing abortion would lessen this in any way. I'm sure it would be even easier for some men and women to bypass the precautions necessary to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, if they knew that abortion was a guaranteed option for them, if they became pregnant.

    This is one of those issues, just to give you an example where I can't say...sure go ahead, do whatever you want...it's not hurting me because it DOES hurt me on a very deep level. I care very much for the innocent life that is destroyed by this process.

    Euthanasia...

    Suicide is against my relgious beliefs....even if I were in severe pain, suffering. I couldn't allow someone to take my life as my life is not my own to take away.

    If someone else who doesn't share my beliefs wants to have their life ended in such a manner...fine...they're more than welcome to do so. I would never say an ill word to them.

    I think it's very possible that people would become compulsive about euthanasia. A person could be faced wiht a very frightening illness or disease and in the throes of pain and suffering make such a decision BECAUSE it's a legal option.

    Should people have the RIGHT to request such a thing? Maybe so. But in truth, I have a very strong hunch that my vote wouldn't go to the politician who would support euthanasia. In my personal life, you won't see me rallying for rights to do such a thing.

    I think all drugs suck, to be honest. But alcohol and tobacco have terrible effects on the bodies, minds and in the lives of individuals as well.

    It wouldn't ruffle my feathers any if marijuana was legalized but I don't feel the same about other illegal drugs. In my opinion, I don't see why it couldn't be grown, sold and regulated like tobacco and/or alcohol. But...you know...this isn't exactly something I'd push for.
     
  10. Jessica Magan

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    I personally have a problem with living in a society that basically says it is inhumane to carry out death sentences on serial rapists and murderers but turns around and says it is a womans right to kill her unborn child. A womans right to choose takes place when she makes the decision to have unprotected sex. Rape victims I have deep compassion for and believe they should be given the option of the morning after pill. As for my right to bear arms I refuse to live in a country where I am not allowed to protect my loved ones and my home.
     
  11. tcprowling

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    Again we seem to be taking the individual issues and not the right to choose. Not everybody has the same belief and they do believe just as strongly in them as you do in yours I believe that weshould all have that choice, although for me neither abortion nor euthanasia is an issue I'd opt for, i feel thoase who do want it should have a legal right to choose
     
  12. PetShopBoy88

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    It is about individual issues. People don't generally apply philosophies generally. They apply them to specific, unique, and individual issues. Yes, the application across these can be similar, but people still think of things as specific, not as general. The right to choose is specific. You can't have a blanket statement of "people are free to choose" or "people are not free to choose". It's "People are free to choose if it doesn't hurt anybody else", or "People are free to choose if it doesn't hurt anybody, even themselves", or "People are free to choose in X circumstance but not in Y". You see, it IS individual. It's very much circumstantial.
     
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    Abortion should be allowed, since it is not murder, and it is entirely arbitrary whether it is immoral or not. Euthanasia should be allowed, because it is the person's life, and nobody else's. Marijuana should be allowed, because it does not hurt anyone else. If it does emotinally hurt you that someone is smoking pot, that should be a family issue, not a legal issue.

    Many things that are illegal should be legal, as long as it does not physically hurt anyone. Morals differ widely between humans, and should not be forced upon anyone unless it risks the saftey of others.
     
  14. Jessica Magan

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  15. lombas

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    My thought about the whole package you present here (euthanasia, prostitution &c) is not to legalize it, but to just decriminalize it. That way, there is no positive or negative policy from the government towards it, and let society take care of it.
     
  16. lombas

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    I agree, except for one thing. These days, it is legal (in my country and, looking at the Schiavo case, in yours as well) for a relative to decide whether euthanasia is suitable or not. I'm against that. Only an oral or written statement of the patient himself can lead to euthanasia, because that's what it's all about: with the consent of patient and doctor. Giving someone the power to interpret the patients desire does not make sense to me.
     
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