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Discussion in 'Seekers Circle' started by savagewind, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. savagewind

    savagewind Veteran Member
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    How is disagreeing with the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses going to hurt me? @Vee and anyone else who might know.
     
  2. savagewind

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    Does it mean that if they can find me. If they can take some of "Jehovah's money" to pay a private eye that they can finally figure out who the hell I am and then........OMG! A story!

    By the happenstance (God knows!) I am not yet disfellowshipped, which, of course, is funny.

    What is wrong with me?
     
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  4. savagewind

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    Simple is best, I have heard. Thank you. I agree with you.
     
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    Yes it is.
    Your welcome.
    I know.
     
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  6. savagewind

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    I hear you saying that Jehovah's Witness will not listen to reasonings.
    Can you tell us for what reason Jehovah chooses to save just a very small measure of humanity?
     
  7. Disciple of Jesus

    Disciple of Jesus Master of the Magicians

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    It's more like, a jw idea isn't going to keep anyone out of heaven. It's pretty clear that traditional belief and the scripture are not trying to separate themselves from salvation via the Triune God, or otherwise.
    So, the subject becomes, what's the commonality here, because there are many differences.
     
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    This sounds interesting, but I'm lost. Can you please elaborate?

    I understand the first sentence and I agree. What about the rest of the post? What does it mean?
     
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    Disciple of Jesus Master of the Magicians

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    What is the commonality between jw and other christian belief. What is the commonality between some jw ideas, beliefs, and anything traditional in xianity?

    These are the questions, what is jw, before arguing in some sort of "christian religion" context.
     
  10. savagewind

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    They call traditional Christianity "Babylon the Great" destined to be destroyed. Some JWs even fear being in another church because if the day comes and they are there, Jehovah will have them destroyed I think the only thing they have in common with others is the Bible (though they interpret it differently) and the name of Jesus.
     
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    Those who loose faith in God and become atheists have left Jehovah. Good to hear your faith in God is strong. The church has sinned in several ways.
     
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    Yes, but even an atheist can not leave Jehovah for real. Jehovah* is God over all.

    *Not God's real name.
     
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    I have given it some thought. I think that calling something good, "bad" is not as wrong as calling something bad, "good".

    The Pharisees were warned about calling Jesus bad. The Jehovah's Witnesses are being warned about calling the antichrist good. They are ignoring the warning.

    If you call something good bad, a person can see for himself if it is really so.
    If you call something bad which is faking being good good it is not possible to know
    for sure.

    It is more likely that a person can be misled for seeing good in bad than it is for seeing bad in good.
     
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    1. Who or what is Jehovah in your mind?
    2. How did you get to Jehovah in the first place? (You can’t leave what you didn’t originally get to)
    3. Why did you leave JW?
    4. Who do you personally follow?
    5. Now that you ‘left’, have you found something else?
     
  15. savagewind

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    I didn't get to Jehovah. Nobody has.
    That is correct. How did I get to the Jehovah's Witnesses. They found me lonely at home and visited me to study the Bible. The Watchtower teaches that a person has to progress their way to be able to attain righteousness.
    They are wrong.
    Now? I believe in Jesus Christ.
    Yes. Religious Forums. :D
     
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    Do they use Jesus or Yeshua? I use Jesus, Esa, and related variations, but basically Jesus.

    I don't notice much Jesus emphasis in jw arguments, ultimately. I wouldn't call it a 'Jesus religion'.

    That being said, traditionally Jesus is God, regardless.


    It seems that important ideas like Hell being a answer to blatant non belief is lost in jw. Seems materialistic in that manner, actually.8
    I'm not sure why jw use so much scripture, seems likes a ' works equals salvation' , argument/religion.
     
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    I think you perceive correctly.
     
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    Disagree. You are welcome to start a conversation on this to keep unwanted attention from giving their 2 cents input.
     
  19. savagewind

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    I do not know what that sentence means. God's son did not call God "Jehovah". God's actual name is lost or was never found in the first place.
    Jehovah is a man-made name. That is a fact.
     
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    this יהוה‎ is the only evidence for God's name. I think יהוה‎ does not mean God. It means what God allows.
     
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