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Konichiwa, Hola, Hello Everyone

Discussion in 'Are you new to ReligiousForums.com?' started by Gavin Luckenbach, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. Gavin Luckenbach

    Gavin Luckenbach Contrite Candidate-- Coddled Catechumen

    Oct 13, 2020
    Christian (Roman Catholic)
    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off as coldly replying. I was just trying to be "quirky" and multilingual, catch attention yaknow ;).

    It may also be that, I must confess, that I am a passive weeb/Japanophile, and also a fan of Hispanic art/history/culture -- I could of chosen a host of other languages, maybe more obscure, but they're basically off the top of my head for a dumb title XD. I didn't want to just title it "HELLO," or something like that.
  2. Deeje

    Deeje Avid Bible Student
    Premium Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    Christian JW
    Yes, that was basically my experience too. They excused way too much wandering off in directions that were not scriptural IMO. It just felt wrong and I could not accept the justification.
    It wasn't until I started studying the Bible for myself that I realized where most of their doctrines originated....and it wasn't from scripture. :(

    I have to ask what drew you to Roman Catholicism, since most of the unscriptural doctrines I was having difficulty with were formulated initially by them and carried over into Protestantism.

    Yes, a troubled conscience can seek all manner of distraction from the awful truth. We have to have the courage to explore outside of the box, like Jesus' first century disciples did. Their worst enemies were those of their own faith...even their own families. (Matthew 10:34-39)

    I was so put off by the teachings of Christendom and their conduct (that was in conflict with Christ's teachings) that I went on my own wandering looking for those who actually obeyed what he taught....it was a fruitless search......until one day, I believe God found me.

    Some of the stumbling blocks that stood out for me were....

    1) The church's involvement in politics. Jesus said we should be "no part of the world" because he said his kingdom was nothing to do with this world (John 8:36) and that satan was in control of it. (1 John 5:19)
    He also said that we should "love our enemies and pray for them" (Matthew 5:43-44) The churches were up to their necks in whatever their governments were doing in the political arena. In the second world war e.g. nations were fighting against their own "Christian" brothers because of some misguided patriotism, that apparently cancelled out their Christianity. (1 John 4:20-21)
    How can a disciple of Christ see his own brother as an enemy?

    2) The teachings of the churches regarding the very nature of God and his son never sat well with me.
    Nowhere did I ever see Jesus call himself "God".....he only ever identified himself as "the son of God".
    Jesus is an "only begotten son" meaning that he needed a "begetter"....someone who caused his existence. This is why God and his firstborn, are pictured as Father and son, not two parts of one entity. Jesus called his Father "the only true God" without including himself. (John 17:3) John 1:18 tells us that "no man has ever seen God"...how many thousands of people saw Jesus?
    Placing the son on equal footing with the Father is actually blasphemous....a direct breach of the first Commandment. (Exodus 20:3) There is no trinity in the Bible, nor is it seen in any other "Abrahamic" faith. But I will find trinities of gods in pagan religions.

    3) What about the adoption of other pagan concepts like an immortal soul departing from fleshly bodies at death?
    Is this a Christian teaching? The Bible does not ever speak of immortal souls just as there is no teaching of a hell of eternal fiery torment. Both of these beliefs however, are also found in pagan religions, but not in any teaching of Jesus Christ, whom we have to remember was a Jew.

    What did the Jewish scripture reveal about the condition of the dead? (Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, 10; Ezekiel 18:4)
    And Jesus' description of "gehenna" is not hell. The Jews knew what "gehenna" was but Christendom translates the words "hades and gehenna" as "hell".....but there is no such place in the Bible.

    There are many more things that led me away from Christendom's teachings....but these would be the main ones. In all these teachings that are complete departures from what Christ taught, it was Roman Catholicism that formulated and promoted them. She is the mother of many daughters. But this was actually foretold by Jesus and his apostles. (2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 Timothy 4:1-3; Luke 6:46; Matthew 13:36-42)

    There are not enough superlatives when describing God's love and mercy.....any genuine person seeking God will feel this awe and a need for all our legitimate questions to be answered......in a satisfying way that feed the soul....from God's word.....not leading us into false religious ideas, adopted from paganism.

    We each must take this journey and our own hearts will lead us to the truth if we genuinely seek it. God knows us and he will invite us into his family. (John 6:65)

    Can I ask you what you see as God's purpose for the earth and humanity upon it? What does the future hold for us and how can we know?
    #22 Deeje, Oct 17, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2020
  3. danieldemol

    danieldemol Well-Known Member
    Premium Member

    Apr 24, 2011
    Baha'i inspired liberal
    Welcome back