Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Which takes precedence to you and why
Knowledge or Faith?
Knowledge or Faith?
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Knowledge or Faith?
- Thread starter Taylor Seraphim
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Knowledge. Faith must not contradict knowledge.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
I said which has more value to you.
Because they are different things.
I place greater value on knowledge overall, but there's still plenty of things I have faith in.
I do not think they are not mutually exclusive things, even if they are "different." How would having knowledge exclude faith, or having faith exclude knowledge?
Never mind; that's not relevant to the OP. Although I still wonder whether or not this is even a sensible question, I would answer that faith comes first, as my "knowledge" is provisional, based on the assumption (faith) that it is possible to have knowledge. Pragmatically, the things I think I know seem to work, therefore my faith is justified...just enough to act as if it is true.
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The OP isn't making them exclusionary.
Deathbydefault
Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Knowledge, both in the philosophical and scientific sense.
buddhist
Well-Known Member
Faith takes precedence, in the sense that it is the initial impulse that (should) drive a person towards validating that faith through personal knowledge.
If that faith cannot be verified through personal knowledge, or that faith is proven wrong through personal knowledge, then that faith must be abandoned.
If someone possesses faith but does nothing with it, then it is a "dead faith" (one which goes nowhere).
If that faith cannot be verified through personal knowledge, or that faith is proven wrong through personal knowledge, then that faith must be abandoned.
If someone possesses faith but does nothing with it, then it is a "dead faith" (one which goes nowhere).
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
Both are equal. My faith comes from knowledge about God and my knowledge comes from faith in God.
I know, realized that, edited my response.
They are exclusive in terms of truth. One is known, the other not.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
Not all knowledge is of factual matters. For example, knowledge of something false still makes the thing false. I can have knowledge of flat Earth theories. In fact, I can know everything about it. Does that make flat Earth theory true?
Therefore, faith and knowledge are of equal value to me.
Then I do not have faith in truth; all I have is provisional knowledge, rooted in experience. I have faith that my experience, my knowledge, reflects truth.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Faith and knowledge are neither mutually exclusive nor diametrically opposed. Both are equally desirable and interdependent.
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Untrue. Faith can (and does) include deep knowledge. I think you're confusing "faith" with "belief."
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Deathbydefault
Apistevist Asexual Atheist
This seems to be a non-answer.
Knowledge is of factual matters, it can be a fact that you know something to be false.
Knowledge that something, a flat Earth in this case, is false might be useful to you.
Faith can only be put on the same level as knowledge in subjective matters, otherwise it isn't even a contest.
InChrist
Free4ever
Both...
For the Lord gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding .. Proverbs 2;6
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. Proverbs 9:10