1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Kingdom of God - Heaven - Paradise. One in the Same or . . . .

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Skwim, Oct 13, 2017.

  1. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    28,052
    Ratings:
    +11,926
    Religion:
    Atheist
    So just what are these three? Are they simply different names for the same place or truly different places?
    No matter what you claim it would be nice to have chapter and verse for verification. Lacking that, how about a good reasoned argument.

    And while we're at it, how about the differences, if there are any, between Hades, Hell, Sheol, and The Lake of Fire. And again, chapter and verse or a good reasoned argument would be appreciated.

    .
     
  2. DavidFirth

    DavidFirth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2017
    Messages:
    6,811
    Ratings:
    +1,322
    Religion:
    Christian
    Answer your own question. What do you think they are? I mean, besides something you seem to enjoy making fun of?
     
  3. Nakosis

    Nakosis Time Efficient Lollygagger
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    19,413
    Ratings:
    +9,637
    Religion:
    Atheist Libertarian
    To be honest, what Jesus says about heaven is kind of vague to where I might consider it nothing more than a state of mind.

    When I hear Paradise, I think of the Muslim Paradise. I've really no idea of the Islamic concepts of Paradise.
     
  4. Super Universe

    Super Universe Defender of God

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2005
    Messages:
    5,039
    Ratings:
    +465
    Religion:
    Urantia Book
    The Kingdom of God is an old reference to rulership. Kings used to rule parts of the world so when primitive humans wanted to describe the Creator of the universe they often used the term Kingdom of God. I don't think it's used as much any more.

    Heaven is God's central focus and the Isle of Paradise. God's central focus is essentially God's brain which is at the center of heaven, it looks like a star, and around it is the Isle of Paradise where all ascended beings reside.
     
  5. URAVIP2ME

    URAVIP2ME Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    15,276
    Ratings:
    +2,588
    Heaven: God's home location I find at 1 Kings 8:39,49
    Earth: God's gift to us I find at Psalms 115:16 and named by God at Genesis 1:10.
    Jesus' promised the humble meek people will inherit the 'Earth' as per Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11,
    Paradise: The paradisical sample Garden of Eden located on Earth. ( People liken vacations spots to paradise )
    Jesus went to 'biblical hell ' the day he died according to Acts of the Apostles 2:27
    So, the day Jesus' died he was Not in paradise but in the grave for the un-conscious sleeping dead as found at Ecclesiastes 9:5; John 11:11-14; Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4.
    ( the definition of the lake of fire is defined as ' second death ' as found at Revelation 20:13-14 )
    So, when Jesus' promised ' paradise ' to the robber he was promising on that day that in the future that person would be in paradise or resurrected back to life on Earth, as would the prophet Daniel - Daniel 12:2; Daniel 12:13.
    KJV inserted a comma (,) at Luke 23:43 which made people think the day Jesus and the thief died they went to heaven. Jesus was giving that criminal a future hope, a hope of a future resurrection to healthy life on Earth.
    The main theme of Jesus preaching at Luke 4:43 was about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44.
    God's kingdom government is the only government that will establish lasting Peace on Earth.
    Jesus, as King of God's Kingdom government, is the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among person's of goodwill starting with Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth begins.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. pearl

    pearl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2005
    Messages:
    6,451
    Ratings:
    +3,325
    Religion:
    Catholic
    I prefer the 'reign of God'.
     
  7. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2014
    Messages:
    64,173
    Ratings:
    +31,508
    Religion:
    Love
    Chapter and verse in the Bible? Quran? Gita? Ramayana? Buddhist scriptures?
     
  8. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    28,052
    Ratings:
    +11,926
    Religion:
    Atheist
    I'm sorry, I figured that taken together these terms would only indicate the Bible. Do the others also use the seven terms: Kingdom of God, Heaven, Paradise, Hades, Hell, Sheol, and The Lake of Fire?

    .
     
  9. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2014
    Messages:
    64,173
    Ratings:
    +31,508
    Religion:
    Love
    If we're being literal, there's only a bit such as
    Kingship and kingdom of God - Wikipedia for example.
    Ramarkrishna Original Gospel of Ramakrishna
     
Loading...