I went there only once, honestly, in my entire life.
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Killing In the Name...
- Thread starter SalixIncendium
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Informative.
Been a few times, first time at age 7. The food is considerably different to elsewhere ive been in italy.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sometimes it's nessessary. Ideologically as a means of self defense and survival situations.
Unquestionably killing is an aspect of nature that's unavoidable.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, I would just do it, because that how my subjective worldview works.
DNB
Christian
I entirely agree, and the only reason that I asked you was not to contend with your position, but merely because you didn't address that in your initial post.
In my post I stated, that I would always use enough force to circumvent the threat, but if injury or death was imminent to myself, then I would kill if I had to.
But, ultimately, the best policy is to avoid such situations and run away as opposed to defending yourself 'rights'.
DNB
Christian
Yes, but crime or war was not part of the equation, was it - we all protest such cases.I disagree with this assessment, at least to the extent being any less discriminating than humans. In a study performed in Spain in 2016 humans rank near the top 30 out of 1,024 mammalian species studied in killing their own species.
Do Animals Murder Each Other?
Animals regularly murder their own kind, and many species do so at a much higher rate than humans.www.livescience.com
But, even still, most humans are horrified by just the thought of such atrocities - our minds are not wired the way other animals are.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I know some people think that Jesus justified killing one's enemy because he told his disciples to carry a sword. But this was not in order to kill their enemies, rather to protect them from animals perhaps. Because the record shows he was killed. He replaced the ear of the one who arrested him and told his disciple to not do that. The early disciples were killed. Jesus never told his disciples to engage in mortal combat. He was the Messiah.
Actually I don't know, has anyone given them that right?
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Animals have no choice, as far as I can see, but to follow the dictates of their nature. The concept of blame, or right and wrong, therefore doesn’t really apply to them.
That’s what makes us different, that we can choose between right and wrong, or our concept thereof. For this reason, we can be held accountable for our actions, in ways that wouldn’t really apply to an animal.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, as always we end up in whether we have free will and if you are accountable, just because I claim,, you are.
But yes, we have a layer of behavior that is different than (other) animals.
This seems like quite a stretch. I don't suppose you have a scripture to support this. Something like, "Do not raise your sword against a fellow human. Only brandish your sword in the event of an animal attack." I don't recall reading anything like that in the Bible.
Well, I reckon the animals have...
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Yeah, free will, or degrees thereof, is always an interesting philosophical conundrum. But we certainly act as if we are exercising it. I doubt many animals have that cognitive experience; I could be wrong about that though. Maybe then, it is a question of degree.
It would appear choice is limited in both. All animals, including humans, are inclined to their nature.
There are those humans that do wrong, not because they set out with the intent to do wrong, but with the intent to do what they perceive to be right, irregardless of how skewed that perspective might be.
Conversely, there are those animals that are capable of killing humans, but choose to remain in a human's companionship because they choose food, love, and a warm place to sleep over killing the person.
Truth to speak, palliative care units all over the world gentle ease the path of their patients into death. Ethically done, I have no objection to that, and to underline the point, if I'm suffering and medicine can't help me recover, there may well come a time when it's appropriate for me.
Do you mean hospice care?
Both palliative care and hospice care treat symptoms that are bringing discomfort with the intention of comforting the patient, but palliative care still uses curative treatment, whereas hospice care is done where death is immanent, typically when the prognosis is less than 6 months, and curative treatment is no longer used.
In any case, I don't consider this killing.
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Hm. Not sure how much choice is involved when an animal becomes domesticated. This only seems to apply to particular species anyway.
Some humans have tried to live and form close relationships with bears or tigers, for example, and all went well until the bear or tiger, acting according to it’s nature, turned on it’s human companion with fatal results. Any blame in this situation, I would suggest, rests entirely with the human.