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Featured Ken Hams Worst case scenario. Ark held 7000 animals inside.

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by Twilight Hue, Mar 6, 2021.

  1. exchemist

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    Yes it's true that direct radiometric dating of sedimentary rocks is hard to do, though there are other ways to gauge their age. But what location or locations are you talking about?

    And you mention the same fossils being found on both sides of the N and S Atlantic oceans. Surely this is exactly what you would expect, isn't it?
     
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  2. sun rise

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    Good one. Google told me this: Scientists have recently estimated that there are approximately 8.7 million species on Earth. They believe that 1-2 million of those species are animals.
     
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    Some suppositions are based on data and logic, some are not. Evolution is in the former category.
     
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    Ah, the fossils found in the Himalayas are over 15 million years old, so it had nothing to with imaginary Flood that happened (also imaginary) less than 4500 years ago.

    Plus, if you understood fossilisation, there are no animals preserved in fossilized-state of less than 10,000 years old. Again that would also refute fish fossils being in imaginary Flood less than 4500 years ago.

    Second. Book 10 in Genesis, clearly stated that Egypt didn’t exist before, but Egyptian civilizations predated the imaginary Flood over 600 years (eg 3100 BCE) and Egyptian culture by at least 1500 years. Take for instance, the first pyramid was built by Djoser from the 3rd dynasty, known as the Step Pyramid in Saqqara, hence predating the Flood by about 200 years (2670 BCE). (Note that the Great Pyramid was built in Giza for Khufu, in the 4th dynasty, but it wasn’t the oldest pyramid.)

    The city of Uruk, which is known as Erech in other translations (eg KJV), was first occupied around 5000 BCE (hence around 7000 years ago), but Uruk was a flourishing Neolithic city, throughout the 4th millennium BCE, where temples to goddess Inanna, around 3500 BCE.

    Uruk/Erech in Genesis 10, say that Nimrod built his city, which is certainly isn’t true, as of Babylon, Calah (Kalhu), Nineveh, and Asshur. Each of these cities were first constructed in different times, so there are no way that one person would have constructed these cities.

    Like I said the first settlement in Uruk was 5000 BCE, while Calah/Kalhu was built by Shalmaneser I, around 1250 BCE. So unless Nimrod lived for about 370 years, I don’t think Nimrod is real person, therefore Genesis 10 is a complete myth, just Genesis 7 & 8.
     
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    It does seem to support the interpretations of the global flood views.
     
  6. ChristineM

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    I know, whe evidence is conclusive
     
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    You might find it of interest . . .
    What Darwin Never Knew — NOVA | PBS
     
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    Seems reasonable, whales (not fish, tut tut) have been given vestigial hind legs in case they need to walk between oceans. Or something.
     
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    The Bible calls whales "fish".
    Who am I do disagree, eh.
     
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    I bow to the ultimate authority (the bible; not you). :D
     
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    Well if the actual global flood took place over some 100 or so millions of years ago. Then what does it do to those other younger (YEC) interpretations? These arguments are over interpretations of the evidences. OEC think that the Noah's flood was a universal but local flood of some kind.
     
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    Disagreements over interpretions of the evidence, Biblical, historcal and scientific. There is evidence which is being interperted as flood evidence for various views.
     
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    Yes. In search of the truth. The actual truth is what does not change.
     
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    Nope, the evidence is incontrovertible.

    Measurements and various forms od dating agree, dna is specific ans does not lie.

    There is no evidence of a global flood, none.
     
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    What it tends to verify is plate tectonics, and how the Americas once were part of the Europe/Africa land mass along with much else. And the continual movements of such still point to this being the best explanation.
     
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    I suppose it was rife in the navy after all...
     
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    When I read this, I thought you meant 7000 of every single species - 7000 lions, 7000 rhinos, etc. Then I read the link - 7000 animals total...
     
  19. Rival

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    I can see why Noach would want to drink himself into a stupor after that...
     
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    Yeah I think even biblical scholars would say that it was a regional flood now. Didn't Gilgamesh have a massive flood?
     
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