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Ken Ham is ripping of Kentucky again:

sooda

Veteran Member
If it is indeed illegal tax evasion, then government may prosecute him in court.
As for being a charlatan, I can't fault him much more than all churches which
pay no property taxes whatsoever. And many of those seek to make the
country more theocratic, to oppose abortion rights, to put prayer (only their
prayers) back in public schools, to fight gay marriage, etc, etc.

The whole system needs an overhaul....let all properties pay property taxes.
And let assessments be objective & fair.

Ham has flipped it around and gone back to for profit status.. I posted a link earlier.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Ham has flipped it around and gone back to for profit status.. I posted a link earlier.
What has he done which you find illegal, & worthy of prosecution?
How about my proposal to have all real estate owners pay property taxes?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Individual property taxes just aren't earmarked for particular spending.
But they are used for education....& perhaps making that an issue is
useful to the plaintiff....tugging on heart strings. "Think of the children!"

Yes! Essentially. I would want taxes to be used to benefit communities, especially where the taxed entity is either using resources or taking from the community in some way. It's a way of giving back what you take.

Since Ham's organization is about spreading Young Earth Creationism as an alternative to mainstream science, taxes should be used to benefit schools that can provide students in the community with adequate education.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Yes! Essentially. I would want taxes to be used to benefit communities, especially where the taxed entity is either using resources or taking from the community in some way. It's a way of giving back what you take.

Since Ham's organization is about spreading Young Earth Creationism as an alternative to mainstream science, taxes should be used to benefit schools that can provide students in the community with adequate education.

That's not to say I am anti-religion, I should add. Ham is free to promote his views, whether he does so for profit or not. However, science informs and benefits in ways more general to the community. Religion certainly has benefits, but where religious belief is being promoted contrary to our best scientific knowledge, it is beneficial to the community to build up its educational systems. (They should be better funded anyway.)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes! Essentially. I would want taxes to be used to benefit communities, especially where the taxed entity is either using resources or taking from the community in some way. It's a way of giving back what you take.
That's the general idea.
Also general...
People try to pay as little as they can.
Government tries to take as much as it can.
But the latter has the upper hand because it can raise
assessments without justification. Then it's up to the
taxpayer to make the case for a reduction. Been there
& done that at great time & cost. I've always won, but
sometimes it's a rather pyrrhic victory in the short run,
ie, I spend tens of thousands, but don't recoup it until
following years.
Since Ham's organization is about spreading Young Earth Creationism as an alternative to mainstream science, taxes should be used to benefit schools that can provide students in the community with adequate education.
Whatever amount of tax he or the park pays, it will be
distributed & spent according to law. We pro-science
anti-creationist types pay just as much to educate
students as does the opposition.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
That's the general idea.
Also general...
People try to pay as little as they can.
Government tries to take as much as it can.
But the latter has the upper hand because it can raise
assessments without justification. Then it's up to the
taxpayer to make the case for a reduction. Been there
& done that at great time & cost. I've always won, but
sometimes it's a rather pyrrhic victory in the short run,
ie, I spend tens of thousands, but don't recoup it until
following years.

Whatever amount of tax he or the park pays, it will be
distributed & spent according to law.

Tis all true!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
A friend in Canajoharie NY bought a derelict supermarket to use for storage.
His assessment was so much higher than his purchase price that his yearly
property tax bill was more than the purchase price.
Tis one of many examples of government rapacious thievery.
I'm pretty pro-pay-your-damn-taxes, but damn. I think we really need to subject Uncle Sam to an Institutional Review Board, or something like it. There's no way anyone could be reasonably assumed to find such an arrangement fair. Unless the seller sold it for a case of beer, I just can't see that being justified.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm pretty pro-pay-your-damn-taxes, but damn. I think we really need to subject Uncle Sam to an Institutional Review Board, or something like it. There's no way anyone could be reasonably assumed to find such an arrangement fair. Unless the seller sold it for a case of beer, I just can't see that being justified.
Some properties aren't even worth a case of beer.
I ran across an interesting valuation problem once.
There was an office condo that I considered buying for my business.
Details are fuzzy, but the listing price was around $100K.
The condo association fees were based upon square footage,
and this was a large unit. But it was in the basement, which
meant that if it rented it out, the rent would be much lower than
above ground units. I calculated that the unit was worth more
like $20K, & submitted an offer around that.
The listing agent rejected this lowball offer immediately.
Then, some time later, they counter-offered at even less than
my offer.
So they must've figured out why my offer was low.
And I figured out that my lowball offer was too high.
I didn't buy it.
The unit was worth next to nothing because of the high expenses.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm pretty pro-pay-your-damn-taxes, but damn. I think we really need to subject Uncle Sam to an Institutional Review Board, or something like it. There's no way anyone could be reasonably assumed to find such an arrangement fair. Unless the seller sold it for a case of beer, I just can't see that being justified.
I am still reeling over the idea that he has a friend.
 
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