Kastrup explains how advaita (non dualism) is not panpsychism

[Fool]

What does it even mean?

it means that you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. you keep implying that it isn't an action. to be aware or unaware first involve "to be", it is a verb, an action first, a movement.

 

[atanu]

it means that you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. you keep implying that it isn't an action. to be aware or unaware first involve "to be", it is a verb, an action first, a movement.

But what e equal to mc square to do with consciousness?

 

[atanu]

it is physical because it has movement.

has nothing to do with any kind of scripture.

Ok. It is your definition. In that case, movements in dream is also physical?

In Hinduism, which you seem to be quoting from time to time, mind and consciousness are not same.

When we say consciousness is non dual, it means there is no second to it. Consciousness is consciousness. To say consciousness is physical (or non physical) means you are attributing an aspect to consciousness that comes after consciousness. Physical or non physical, both are states of mind, which is reflection of consciousness on some form, such as as ‘me’ form etc. Reflections are like one moon being reflected in many puddles.

In Vedanta, which you quote from time to time, consciousness and mind are not of same ontological level. Consciousness is the immutable truth, wherein mind/minds come up as desire/thought. In many minds (mirrors), consciousness sees itself fancifully. That is what Kastrup explains by invoking dissociative disorder.

In any case, to simplify the matter, when we are talking of non dualism, consciousness is consciousness alone. Movements in it are dreamlike. And when there is absolutely no movement, it is revealed as infinite, partition-less, and homogeneous.

But, if you are following some other philosophy then the concepts will be different.

This thread is about non dualism. I will humbly request you to watch the video from a non dualism point of view. Namaste.

 

[atanu]

For anyone who is interested in the spiritual perspective of the non dual darsana (view or philosophy).

 

[bharti]

true but lila is eternal. only that which contains all conditions can itself be unconditional. maya is fixating on part of that reality because of time/space; which is fluid and not fixed.


Lila (Sanskrit: लीला, IAST līlā) or Leela can be loosely translated as the "divine play". The concept of Lila is common to both non-dualist and dualist philosophical schools of Indian philosophy, but has a markedly different significance in each. Within non-dualism, Lila is a way of describing all reality, including the cosmos, as the outcome of creative play by the divine absolute (Brahman).



The idea of three types of guna, innate nature and forces that together transform and keep changing the world is, however, found in numerous earlier and later Indian texts.[20]

What?

 

[Fool]

What?

the illusion is with maya and not lila. lila is the never changing brahman. paradox

 

[bharti]

the illusion is with maya and not lila. lila is the never changing brahman. paradox

Are you Hindu?

 

[Fool]

Are you Hindu?

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