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Karmic Patterns

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by WisdomAddict, Dec 2, 2021.

  1. WisdomAddict

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    how to change an karmic pattern or get rid of it actually?
    what is your advice on this...?

    in my experience some of them are so deep that can't change only by doing something else to break the pattern...
     
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  2. JustGeorge

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    I suspect in most things that involve a pattern, doing something else is key to getting rid of it.
     
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    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    You can't. These things settle on its own accord but there's always persistent karma, yours and surrounding, because nothing is stagnant forever.

    As Alan Watts puts it, "Nature is wiggly".
     
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    How do you bring a bank account to a $0 balance when take too much money out and you’re overdrawn?
     
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  5. WisdomAddict

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    i read somewhere that a karmic cycle will repeat itself until getting different result and then will be payed off

    what you are saying is that a karmic cycle will remain for ever??
     
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    While I suspect it would take awhile, (lifetimes, perhaps), if one changes their actions, one's karma will change, too, in my opinion. Do you feel its unchangable?

    Guess its time to get out there and start makin' money...
     
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    I get my answer
    thank you all for your informative and helpful answers...
     
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    What would one do?

    If someone murdered another would it "cancel out" by doing the opposite?
     
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    I view karma as cause and effect. Non determinate. There's always something going on that has an impact that steers you in one direction or other. Weither going with the flow or fighting upstream through the elements, karma is like a crazy sea with its storms and periods of calm.

    My view is you can change course here and there, but ultimately where one ends up depends on the sum of all the parts which might place one in unexpected places!
     
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    If you've done life denying activities, I think the best way to make up for that would be to participate in life affirming ones. There would be a lot of different ways one could do that.
     
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    how about...
    killing someone who is gonna kill mass amount of innocent people?
    will be count as a good deed or bad deed?
    i mean it will generate negative karmic results or positive?
     
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    like bringing somone else to birth?
     
  13. JustGeorge

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    I wouldn't think one would necessarily have to give birth, but perhaps they could help reform other criminals who went down that path(essentially, giving them their life back), or to work with the disadvantaged(in whatever way that may be). One could even take 'life affirming' and bring it out into the environment, or to help enrich the lives of animals(whether wild or domestic).
     
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    Learn the lesson. Each bit of karma has a lesson attached. A karmic pattern is having that lesson repeated.
     
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    As you IMO correctly put it, Karma is a pattern not a law.
    As you continue in a pattern the "world" responds in its pattern and ends in the same results.

    You have to change your pattern. This is not easy as your pattern of actions is what it is because it is comfortable for you. You get some physical/mental comfort from your pattern of actions.

    You have to be willing to be uncomfortable, perhaps uncomfortable for a very long time. A majority of people will prefer their comfort.
    I'm not judging, I prefer my comfort. :cool:
    I suppose I am grateful my pattern of comfort doesn't get me into too much trouble. Others aren't as lucky.
     
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    Well the ripples of those actions will affect people. I mean we still feel the effects of ww2 and other major events that entail tremendous suffering. As for those responsible, once they die, things get technically reset as every atom that bonded to make that peeson are rebinding into new forms, new people.

    Even as such things carry out, the universe continues on indifferent to the karma of war, suffering, and violence.
     
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    From my understanding, you don't change your karma. You have a choice in how to deal with especially lessons that come to you that you don't welcome. Of course, good karma would be welcomed.
     
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    In my opinion action supersedes intent. We can justify our own actions but that doesn't mean they're not "thrown out" there and make an effect. As for feeling the effect I guess in some ways subtle and others more noticable.
     
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    In some banks if you get a withdrawal protection you can take out bank money for say emergencies. To pay back to zero you get charged $25 when you spend more than you have. The bank gets it's money back with interest.
     
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