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JW's Preach A Different Gospel

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by katiemygirl, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. savagewind

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    The false gospel is that God comes to destroy those not believing in God.
     
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    Why not? Because I am being ignored by them all. Someone else ask them why Daniel 2:44 says what they say it says. Please. It is because the scribes and the Pharisees say it says that. So? Why not ask them why they believe in the scribes and the Pharisees?
     
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    Another false gospel they teach is that those believing in Jesus Christ will get everlasting life. Jesus taught that those who believe in him have everlasting life. They teach that belief in Jesus is what will cause a person's salvation. The truth is that belief in Jesus IS a person's salvation.
     
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    Sad that the word truth, by common everyday usage, has become meaningless.
     
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    SIGH For you it is sad. I think truth is everything BUT sad. I suppose I should thank you for not posting to me?
     
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    The reality is truth is power. I think it is also true that truth is easily angered. The reality is that they are looking forward to the time that Truth demonstrates its anger with power. I call wanting that riduculous.
     
  7. katiemygirl

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    I've asked you the same questions repeatedly, and you have not answered them.

    I'll make it simple. Did Jesus or any inspired writer ever us the term "paradise earth?" YES or NO?

    Please cite an example of anyone in the New Testament preaching Watchtower's gospel, which is:

    God's heavenly kingdom was established by the enthronement of his Son Jesus Christ at the end of the Gentile Times in 1914."

    "Let the honest-hearted person compare the kind of preaching of the gospel done by the religious systems of Christendom during all the centuries with that done by Jehovah's Witnesses since the end of World War I in 1918. They are not one and the same kind.That of Jehovah's Witnesses is really "gospel" or "good news," as of God's heavenly kingdom that was established by theenthronement of his Son Jesus Christ at the end of the Gentile Times in 1914."(Watchtower, May 1, 1981, p. 17)

    Maybe I shouldn't hold my breath? ;)
     
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    The reality is that people throw around the word truth when when using the word truth is a bold faced lie.

    Truth of the Bible my ***.

    Declaring your opinions are truth and dissing those with a differing opinion has become the standard procedure to "spread gods word".

    Any deity that approves of such bull **** is one I want absolutely nothing to do with.
     
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  9. jeager106

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    Wow! This bashing thread is STILL bashing away?
    This has become nothing more than an ego measuring contest.
    Hitler would be proud of some of these threads.
    "Ban the Jews. The Final Solution." "They are different from us."
    "We need rid of them for what they preach and how they behave."
    "Their God ain't my God".
    Just substitute J.W.'s for Jews.
     
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    jeager106 Learning more about Jehovah.
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    Then, my dear, what is the correct gospel?
     
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    Good luck.
    I have asked in more than one thread and am completely ignored by all those claiming to have the one true truth from the one true god.
     
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    This is what I believe is the Gospel.


    1Co 1:21-24 (ESVST) 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

    1Co 15:1-4 (ESVST) 1 Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, 2 and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you— unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures.

    Act 5:42 (ESVST) 42 And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching that the Christ is Jesus.

    Act 8:34-36 (ESVST) 34 And the eunuch said to Philip, " About whom, I ask you, does the prophet say this, about himself or about someone else?" 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning with this Scripture he told him the good news about Jesus. 36 And as they were going along the road they came to some water, and the eunuch said, " See, here is water! What prevents me from being baptized?"

    Act 11:19-20 (ESVST) 19 Now those who were scattered because of the persecution that arose over Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia and Cyprus and Antioch, speaking the word to no one except Jews. 20 But there were some of them, men of Cyprus and Cyrene, who on coming to Antioch spoke to the Hellenists also, preaching the Lord Jesus.

    1Co 2:1-2 (ESVST) 1 And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom. 2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

    Phi 1:15-18 (ESVST) 15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.

    2Ti 2:8-9 (ESVST) 8 Remember Jesus Christ, risen from the dead, the offspring of David, as preached in my gospel, 9 for which I am suffering, bound with chains as a criminal.
     
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    The correct one is stated in the Scriptures.

    1 Cor. 15:1-4
    1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

    3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importancea: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve.

    Acts 2
    22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.

    36“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”

    37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”

    38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

    40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

    46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved
     
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    I do not know that I said "truth of the Bible". I am sure I said truth of Jesus Christ. FYI Jesus is not the Bible. As some people seem to believe.
     
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    I am not as aware of the truth as I am of the lie. But here is what I have. Jesus came so that they may have life. That is the true gospel.
     
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    By the way, nobody else but Jesus has come or (in my opinion) will come so that God's children will know life. Many people have come with wisdom, but only Jesus has come with life, in my opinion.
     
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    it wouldnt matter what answer I gave you are not interested in any answer we Jehovahs Witnesses may give, so why ask for something you dont want?

    Wouldnt you rather find your own answer to these questions?

    Go to the book of Daniel for the answer... its in there.
     
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    Pegg Jehovah our God is One

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    there is not only 'one' good news.

    Jesus spoke of 'everlasting life' and the 'resurrection from the dead' both of which are VERY good news.
    He also talked about how to 'love your neighbor' and 'forgiveness'.
    Not only that, but he also encouraged all to 'seek first the kingdom' in their life.
    He admonished his followers to 'put your sword in its place' and he spoke of 'paying Caesars things to Caesar but Gods things to God'

    The Gospel of Good News included instructions on how to preach the kingdom message....taking it from 'door to door and marketplaces'

    We know that Christ died and was resurrected, thats elementary.... but what about his many other teachings; Shouldn't the gospel we preach include all of them???
     
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    The three terms (Hebrew par·desʹ, Persian pairidaeza, and Greek pa·raʹdei·sos).....all convey the basic idea of a beautiful park or parklike garden. The first such park was that made by man’s Creator, Jehovah God, in Eden. (Ge 2:8, 9, 15) It is called a gan, or “garden,” in Hebrew but was obviously parklike in size and nature. The Greek Septuagint appropriately uses the term pa·raʹdei·sos with reference to that garden.

    Because of sin, Adam lost his right to live in that paradise and his opportunity to gain the right to everlasting life, which right was represented in the fruit of a divinely designated tree in the center of the garden. The garden of Eden may have been enclosed in some way, since it was necessary to place angelic guards only at the east side thereof to prevent human entrance.—Ge 3:22-24.

    Paradise — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
     
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    Pegg, you know there is no such Scripture in the entire Bible which uses the term "paradise earth." Why could you not have been honest enought to admit that?

    You make the claims about a so-called "paradise earth" and that the kingdom was established in 1914. It's up to you to prove your claims.

    Where? I've read Daniel many times. I see no "paradise earth" or the kingdom being established in 1914. Why do you keep carrying this lie forward to others?
     
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