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We know that the Father is called God, so the only question is whether Jesus or the Holy Spirit are called God.
Jesus is called God
27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
ING - Judges are called Elohiym - that doesn't make them actual Gods.
The word in 28 is "Theos" which also means magistrate, master, etc.
Doubting Thomas - didn't believe it was Jesus. "my Lord and my Master."
You folks always forget the last line.
Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Again - Jesus is claiming to be the awaited MESSIAH - whom IS NOT a God. He is a Special/Singular HUMAN from the Line of David.
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Holy Spirit is called God
Act 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have
lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing?
You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
ING - Act 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
Again - differentiation between GOD and the Messiah.
The "Holy Spirit" is a power function of God - not a being.
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Ingledsva said:
Joh 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
They make it plain here that the subject is him claiming to be the MESSIAH - the ultimate LAST JUDGE of Israel.
So just because he is is claiming to be the the Messiah, that mean that he isn't God? So just because we call Cassius Clay (his birth name) Muhammad Ali, that mean that he isn't Cassius Clay? Hmmm.
ING - The awaited Messiah is a HUMAN from the Line of David.
Again - nowhere does it actually say Jesus is GOD.
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Ingledsva said:
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Greater in terms of what? Position. At a school, the principal is greater than every person within the domain of the school. No one is greater than the position..no teacher, no secretary, no counselor, no student. But is principal any greater of a human being than anyone else in the school? No. When we say that Jesus is God, we are talking about his Deity, not his position/role...as Phil 2:5-9 indicates.
ING - What? It is saying GOD is greater then ALL.
Jesus is not God, he is a Son of God, as are ALL the appointed of Israel.
Ingledsva said:
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
(As One, The President and I are one/as one. in complete agreement.)
Once Jesus said "I and the Father are one", the Jews picked up stones to stone him...and they said they were stoning him because he claimed to be God. So the Jews understood Jesus saying "I and the Father are one" as a claim of being God, and I happen to agree with them.
ING - Quit taking them one at a time, out of context. I showed in #49 that they are NOT calling Jesus God.
Ingledsva said:
Joh 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Joh 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
This "god" is Theos - which just as Elohiym - also means JUDGE. They are angry that he is calling himself the MESSIAH - a JUDGE of Israel - higher in rank then them.
That is just a bad interpretation, Ingle. Real bad. First off, they said they were stoning him for BLASPHEMY, because by him claiming that him and the Father are "one", he is claiming to be God.
So they gave the REASON why they were stoning him, Ingle. This is a clear case of someone adding false interpretation to the scriptures. Why do I need you to tell me why they are angry with him, when I am reading directly from THEM why they are angry with him? I mean, it is right there!!!
Second, even if Jesus was calling himself a "judge of Israel", that still wouldn't have been grounds for a stoning death, because calling yourself a judge of Israel is not a blasphemous claim. But calling yourself God is, which is EXACTLY why they were about to stone him.
So please...don't.
ING - BALONEY! Him going to Temples and groups NAMING HIMSELF the awaited Messiah/a Magistrate of Israel with that power - judging THEM - the Appointed (by God) Priests - would obviously be blasphemy to them, and to the people.
Go back and read the whole thing in context. Jesus is not God. He claims to be the Messiah - an awaited special HUMAN, sent by God.
Ingledsva said:
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Joh 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
Joh 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Note here that he does not say he is God.
He doesn't say that he isn't, either.