"Justice" System Incompetence

[Stevicus]

They're supposed to adhere to these rules.'
And many even do. But there are those who
don't, & they aren't held accountable often enuf.
The "blue wall" protects the malefactors.

But this thread is about the whole system,
which includes the judges you mention.

As far as the "blue wall" you mentioned, I saw an article a few years ago about a shooting by Border Patrol agents and the subsequent investigation by Pima County Sheriff's detectives, since it happened in Pima County.

Border agents at shooting scene 'angry' with investigators

The reports indicated several agents who were at the scene but not involved in the shooting seemed unaware of how an officer-involved shooting was investigated, a deputy wrote. Several agents told deputies they had never been trained about how shooting cases were handled or why they would have to turn over evidence and be subjected to investigators’ questions.

“We specifically asked them questions about why the Border Patrol agents did not seem to understand at all what was going on,” a deputy wrote in his incident report. “They said they do not have training in their academy on what would happened after an officer-involved shooting.”

The deputy said he tried to explain to several agents that the investigation would include obtaining search warrants, seizing any firearms involved, questioning agents involved or agents who witnessed the shooting, taking DNA from the two agents involved in the shooting, reading agents their Miranda rights, checking their equipment, taking photographs and other investigative procedures.

“Some of the comments I heard included: ‘We are all cops; why are you treating us like this? This is ridiculous, and there is no need for this,’ ” a deputy wrote in his report.

Many of the comments came from agents who were at the scene but had not been involved in the shooting, according to the reports. Marquez also made statements that he felt he was being treated like a criminal, and Palmer appeared upset and disapproved of the investigation, stated a report.

"We are all cops; why are you treating us like this?" Apparently, cops don't like it when they are questioned by other cops, and with this "we are all cops" statement, it seems to insinunate some sort of "brotherhood" where they're supposed to protect each other.

A somewhat older but more lengthy article discusses how the Border Patrol has very little accountability when it comes to shootings.

Border Patrol faces little accountability

Oftentimes, people don't even hear about the shootings.

And there was one case where one agent was shot by other agents.

Early on Oct. 2, Border Patrol Agent Nicholas Ivie cautiously approached a site east of Bisbee where a ground sensor had gone off. Two fellow agents approached from another direction.

In an apparent accident, Ivie fired at the other agents, striking one, the FBI and Cochise County Sheriff's Department reported. The agent who was struck fired back, killing Ivie.

Amid an outpouring of support for Ivie's family, some found a key aspect of the case troubling: Here was a case where an agent apparently didn't know what he was shooting at.

These kinds of shootings are different from many of the urban shootings, since these happen out in the middle of nowhere in some remote desert location. Still, they might be just as keyed up and ready to shoot at anything that moves.

 

[leibowde84]

They're supposed to adhere to these rules.'
And many even do. But there are those who
don't, & they aren't held accountable often enuf.
The "blue wall" protects the malefactors.

But this thread is about the whole system,
which includes the judges you mention.

I agree. Police Officers are given the benefit of the doubt far too much. They should be held to a higher standard.

 

[Poisonshady313]

Death is supposed to be close to instantaneous...

Where is that written?

The downside of the airplane drop is that it would be a terror filled event for the criminal. That could be called "torture" by some.

Cruel and unusual, as far as I'm concerned, is executing people for shoplifting.

If an inmate has earned capital punishment by committing a capital crime, I don't think it's necessary to be super cautious about being completely painless.

 

[Revoltingest]

A fascinating story about police incompetence.
They arrest & charge the victim who defended himself.
Why?
When he disarmed they guy who attacked him & his friends,
cops say taking the gun away is illegal possession.

 

[Revoltingest]

Good samaritan arrested & charged for refusing to
stop saving the life of a badly injured woman....