Just Making **** Up

[Wandering Monk]

It struck me today looking at all the faith descriptions of various posters how religion is completely subjective. People can just make up religions to suit their personalities and desires.

 

[leov]

It struck me today looking at all the faith descriptions of various posters how religion is completely subjective. People can just make up religions to suit their personalities and desires.

This just reinforces the fact that it is all make believe.

May be you missed the point that religion should be 'subjective'?

 

[ChristineM]

It struck me today looking at all the faith descriptions of various posters how religion is completely subjective. People can just make up religions to suit their personalities and desires.

Its more serious than that, many read the "holy" book they have chosen then make whatever fantasies that meet their longing from the stories they read.

 

[ChristineM]

May be you missed the point that religion should be 'subjective'?

I think thats essentially what he said

Subjective :based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions

 

[leov]

I think thats essentially what he said

Subjective :based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions

That what it supposed to be, individual affair.

 

[ChristineM]

That what it supposed to be, individual affair.

Made up. Its what @Wandering Monk said

 

[Howard Is]

This just reinforces the fact that it is all make believe.

It also reflects consumerism.

Select your brand, model and options. Select a payment plan. Buy some merch like coffee mugs, car stickers etc to reinforce your look and identity, and ... Rock it !

 

[leov]

Made up. Its what @Wandering Monk said

No, he meant it is invalid because it is subjective.

 

[SalixIncendium]

May be you missed the point that religion should be 'subjective'?

"Should be?"

Why?

 

[leov]

"Should be?"

Why?

Because it is individual evolution of consciousness.

 

[Native]

It struck me today looking at all the faith descriptions of various posters how religion is completely subjective. People can just make up religions to suit their personalities and desires.

You seemingly forget the issue that different cultural religions can be compared and commonly recognized to be very similar and as such they initially represent COLLECTIVE AND NATURAL MATTERS and not personal matters.

Having said this, unfortunately the ancient genuine religion is misinterpreted and misused by priests and politicians for personal and national purposes.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

It struck me today looking at all the faith descriptions of various posters how religion is completely subjective. People can just make up religions to suit their personalities and desires.

This just reinforces the fact that it is all make believe.

Why not look at that optimistically? Whatever one is into, be it computers, motorcycles, artwork, or cars, most people value the updates they receive to be highly effective. Why are you and others bent on saying that religions must always be older than rocks? You can update and redesign it like anything else. Who gave you rules that state otherwise? Would it help if I pointed out that we are actually still in the process of figuring out why we are here, that nobody before now really had a 100 percent grip on what is going on here. Yes, they often wanted 'solidity' and so they made religions they said were true. But maybe they only said that because they were insecure. Embrace the notion that you can't know it all, and gain spiritual dynamism

 

[Mock Turtle]

That what it supposed to be, individual affair.

So best not go into any church (or whatever), where conformity (to whatever religion) might be the sermon expressed?

 

[Mock Turtle]

Why not look at that optimistically? Whatever one is into, be it computers, motorcycles, artwork, or cars, most people value the updates they receive to be highly effective. Why are you and others bent on saying that religions must always be older than rocks? You can update and redesign it like anything else. Who gave you rules that state otherwise? Would it help if I pointed out that we are actually still in the process of figuring out why we are here, that nobody before now really had a 100 percent grip on what is going on here. Yes, they often wanted 'solidity' and so they made religions they said were true. But maybe they only said that because they were insecure. Embrace the notion that you can't know it all, and gain spiritual dynamism

Except that all the religions have generally just caused divisions as much as they have brought people into believing whatever they deem as true.

 

[tayla]

It struck me today looking at all the faith descriptions of various posters how religion is completely subjective. People can just make up religions to suit their personalities and desires.

Of course I agree.

But, for the religious, there is a way out of this quandary: If one of these religions were the true religion, and if you happened (by God's grace) to be an adherent of that true religion, then the others would be false.

But sadly, if you could disprove your religion with other evidence and arguments, well... It's probably best to not attempt this.

 

[tayla]

Its more serious than that, many read the "holy" book they have chosen then make whatever fantasies that meet their longing from the stories they read.

Good point. Each religion is actually many religions.

 

[tayla]

That what it supposed to be, individual affair.

If religion is individual, why do the religious sometimes (often?) feel the need to convert everyone else, and to subject their society to it?

 

[leov]

So best not go into any church (or whatever), where conformity (to whatever religion) might be the sermon expressed?

It is an individual choice. I do not go into any church, for example, my wife is regular in the church.

 

[Mock Turtle]

It is an individual choose. I do not go into any church, for example, my wife is regular in the church.

There are plenty of faiths where it appears to be a duty though.

 

[tayla]

Because it is individual evolution of consciousness.

I wonder what you mean by this? I guess there is more to say about this, that you have a worldview about reality and consciousness and such. Please share.

Biological organisms evolve, and I suppose in a way, cultures evolve too. But does consciousness evolve? If you mean that brains capable of generating consciousness evolve, I agree.

And I suppose you could say that the universe evolves (this is probably stretching the meaning of the term) because it has changed over time, with stars and planets appearing from swirling dust and gas.