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You testing me? LOL
Discussing Jesus would be beyond the scope of this thread
"The short answer is because the Jews are taught God’s law is truth
"Your righteousness is everlasting and your law is true." (Psalm 119:142)"
Sorry, for sure, I asked because you quoted from Psalm which is not a book of Law in Jews as I undersand. Jewish Law is in the first five books of the OT, as you know.
If it is the absolute truth, then one should have been a Jew instead of being a Christian.
Please correct me if I am wrong. You don't have to answer if it would be beyond the scope of this thread.
We don't.How do Jews prove that Judaism is the truth?
You testing me? LOL
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. (Revelation 22:13 )
The Psalms were written after the Torah. All these other books in Jewish scripture complement the Torah. The Torah is the foundation and most of the other books point back to the Torah.
You suggested that Judaism is a racial religion. I pointed out that if it was a matter of race there would be no conversion to Judaism. Just like a Chinese person can't "convert" to the African race. Since it is possible to convert to Judaism, it is not a racial religion.
Sometimes the ignorance is just so great that its an affront to humanity and we as human beings need to remedy it.
Generally speaking, Jews tend not to engage in that kind of behavior voluntarily. "Proving" your religion is "the truth" is usually a facet of universalist religions that are actively proselytizing because they believe theirs to be the only legitimate or effective means of relating to God, and/or that everyone ought to be their religion.
Judaism is not universalist: we are, in fact, forbidden from active proselytization. We do accept proselytes who come to us of their own free will, but we do not actively seek out converts. This is, in part, because we do not (by and large) teach that Judaism is the only legitimate or effective means of relating to God, nor do we believe that everyone ought to be Jewish. We teach that Judaism is the only legitimate and authentic religion for Jews. We presume that non-Jews will have their own ways of relating to God, and that those ways can be and probably are perfectly satisfactory and effective for them.
We have various traditions and teachings about why Judaism alone is permissible and right for Jews to practice, and why Jews are forbidden from all other religions. But we don't generally make an effort to demonstrate such teachings to non-Jews, since the matter doesn't really concern non-Jews, unless said non-Jews are trying to force us to abandon Judaism for some other religion-- in which case we usually explain that we are bound by the covenant that our ancestors agreed to at Sinai, and the one which they (and we) inherited from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and that those covenants are eternal and unbreakable and commit us not only to pure monotheism but to our own specific and unique path of relating to God.
I'm not sure what you mean by tribal. But nationality and race are not synonymous. The member I was responding had suggested that Judaism was a racial religion. It may be true that the vast majority of us have shared genetic markers, but it is also possible to convert to Judaism. This would not be possible if Judaism was strictly a racial religion.It is however an ethnic/tribal/national religion (I think that the same is true of Islam in some sense as well; the ummah is analogous to a nation that includes people with a common ancestry and people without a common ancestry, and is a much stronger and cohesive body than the mystical "body of Christ" or "communion of all saints" that constitutes the Christian fraternity). Also nationality can be changed, at least there is historical precedent, by adopting the customs of a new nation or through intermarriage. The French certainly accept converts notwithstanding lack of shared lineage, to use one example.
There are core beliefs, and as we witness the world around us, we see that the beliefs are true.
I'm not sure what you mean by tribal. But nationality and race are not synonymous. The member I was responding had suggested that Judaism was a racial religion. It may be true that the vast majority of us have shared genetic markers, but it is also possible to convert to Judaism. This would not be possible if Judaism was strictly a racial religion.
Can you substantiate any of this? In order to prove Torah wrong, you would have to absolutely know what the correct accounts were, and it is virtually impossible for you to do that. You can believe Torah is inaccurate, but you cannot substantiate that it is any more than I could substantiate the Qu'ran is inaccurate if I had any desire whatsoever to try and do that, which I don't. What you are doing is confusing your beliefs with whatever the facts may be, and "beliefs" and "facts" are not synonymous terms. So, all you are doing here is parroting the "Islamic line" that we've seen over and over again.Byjayfzv said: ↑
How do Jews prove that Judaism is the truth?
They don't and they cannot prove that Judaism is truthful. Their narrators/clergy/scribes played havoc with the Word of Revelation from YHWH on Moses in ancient times and made it a racial religion. When they named it Judaism and its followers as Jews they got cut-off from Moses and YHWH.
Now whatever the Jews do, if their father and or mother are Jews one remains Jew, even one becomes an Atheist.
Am I right?
Please correct me if I am wrong.
We don't try. As stated, the truth is a matter of belief.They don't and they cannot prove that Judaism is truthful.
No, they didn't, and, as has been stated, though there is a genetic component to Judaism, it is not a racially based religion. Conversion in to Judaism precludes a racial limitation.Their narrators/clergy/scribes played havoc with the Word of Revelation from YHWH on Moses in ancient times and made it a racial religion.
Wrong. Giving something a name reflecting another aspect of it does nothing to change what the thing is. Call my computer a Mac. It is still a computer.When they named it Judaism and its followers as Jews they got cut-off from Moses and YHWH.
In certain ways, this is true.Now whatever the Jews do, if their father and or mother are Jews one remains Jew, even one becomes an Atheist.