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Joseph and Mary were cousins? - say it wasn't so

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Pah, Jan 7, 2005.

  1. Pah

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    From an article in the Catholic Encyclopedia

     
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    Who's on 1st?
     
  3. Pah

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    I don't know - fields the hot ones
     
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    That doesn't seem to be in the same philosophical vein as Deut's answer which is also much more witty. At least, I answered in kind.

    Bob
     
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    Since, God is the father of Jesus, I guess it wouldn't matter if Joseph and Mary were first cousins. Joseph might have gotten to first base, but didn't bring it home.:)
     
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    Maybe this helps more to explain Mary's perpetual Virginity than anything else!:eek:
     
  8. Pah

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    But what about brother James?

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    If we all came from the same two people arent we all cousins?
     
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    If tradition is correct, Heli’s wife, the mother of Mary, was Anna, whose sister had a daughter named Elizabeth, the mother of John the Baptizer. This tradition would make Elizabeth the cousin of Mary. That Mary was related to Elizabeth, who was "from the daughters of Aaron" of the tribe of Levi, the Scriptures themselves state. (Lu 1:5, 36) Mary’s sister, some have thought, was Salome, the wife of Zebedee, whose two sons, James and John, were numbered among Jesus’ apostles.—Mt 27:55, 56; Mr 15:40; 16:1; Joh 19:25.

     
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    I was thinking this very same thought the other day when I first saw this thread. The question really should be for Joseph and Mary, "how close?"

    As to the part of Mary being a virgin. What about the scripture below?

    WEB (World English Bible)

    [size=-1]Matthew 13:55
    Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? [/size][size=-1][/size]​
     
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    There are three theories about this:

    1. They actually are Jesus' brothers. Mary and Joseph had children after Jesus.

    2. They are the children of Joseph and a deceased wife. This comes from the Protoevangelium of James (circa 120). An old Joseph is chosen to protect the virginity of Mary, who has been dedicated. The absence of Joseph after Jesus's childhood suggests his death, which would be explained if he was old at Jesus's birth.

    3. They are Jesus's cousins. It is my understanding that Aramaic uses the same word for cousin and brother. When writing the Gospels in Greek, the authors chose the incorrect word to translate it.
     
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