Ok we can speculate then whom it was??
yet how did they manage to get their hands on details, that were most likely kept private i.e. the council suggesting to kill Lazarus again?
To me that would imply it came directly from one of the council members, whom were there or had knowledge of this.
It is very much been put as John, so most people take it as John the disciple without extra research.
Yet then within it most of it contradicts Yeshua and stands against the other gospels so in my opinion making it none valid
Now that is the biggest point, most of Christianity rest on, the book of John, not on what Christ taught in the slightest.
When I have been trying to point how much Paul contradicts, most people will either turn around and say well peter (stone) was his friend well obviously if translations hadnt been made to be mis-represented as in Christ said Judas and Simon will betray him .so that is Simon the Stone easily out of the way, to clear for the truth of what Christ really meant .as they directly stand in the path of his true meaning.
Yet the next point after Paul and Simon is always John said it, yet implies Christ did, well after re-reading the gospels again after a heated discussion
I realized that the books of John is clearly not relating the same Yeshua
In John it relates an egotistical fool claiming it self to be God yet in the other gospels we see his true colours of someone very humble forgiving and standing by the scriptures correctly
So this is my reason for saying John was a Pharisee as clearly it is intentional to discredit Yeshua, as he look like a complete idiot in it, according to knowing the Bible as he contradicts it to much.
As do Paul and Simon in all the same places and same points, almost like the Pharisee wanted people to believe what they did, and they forced everyone else to believe the same through tricky, corruption, murder and mistranslating etc (continues as Vatican)
Now when the Bible actually foretold this chain of events then seriously we owe it to God and Yeshua to stand up and fix it as he meant.
Now fair enough on if a Pharisee, yet a member of the council or someone who could have collected that knowledge to me it makes the most sense of John Nicodemus as it is a personal account in the gospel of John where Nicodemus approaches Yeshua as no one else mentions it no one else would know the exact measurements of good brought for his death, yet the person who did that, would have .everyone else might have known what they were, yet not quantities.
The things is with this is its not a question that can be believed or not it is clear as day that John contradicts.
ok may take wise peoples to see it; as we see with the case of Paul and how our top theologians and peoples who really studied noticed that Paul is blatantly contradicting
John is slightly different he is claiming Yeshua said all them things, when clearly on many case they can be disproved by the other gospels of what Yeshua said, and the old testament as being way off and in fact to deter from ever following of Yeshua.
yet how did they manage to get their hands on details, that were most likely kept private i.e. the council suggesting to kill Lazarus again?
To me that would imply it came directly from one of the council members, whom were there or had knowledge of this.
It is very much been put as John, so most people take it as John the disciple without extra research.
Yet then within it most of it contradicts Yeshua and stands against the other gospels so in my opinion making it none valid
Now that is the biggest point, most of Christianity rest on, the book of John, not on what Christ taught in the slightest.
When I have been trying to point how much Paul contradicts, most people will either turn around and say well peter (stone) was his friend well obviously if translations hadnt been made to be mis-represented as in Christ said Judas and Simon will betray him .so that is Simon the Stone easily out of the way, to clear for the truth of what Christ really meant .as they directly stand in the path of his true meaning.
Yet the next point after Paul and Simon is always John said it, yet implies Christ did, well after re-reading the gospels again after a heated discussion
I realized that the books of John is clearly not relating the same Yeshua
In John it relates an egotistical fool claiming it self to be God yet in the other gospels we see his true colours of someone very humble forgiving and standing by the scriptures correctly
So this is my reason for saying John was a Pharisee as clearly it is intentional to discredit Yeshua, as he look like a complete idiot in it, according to knowing the Bible as he contradicts it to much.
As do Paul and Simon in all the same places and same points, almost like the Pharisee wanted people to believe what they did, and they forced everyone else to believe the same through tricky, corruption, murder and mistranslating etc (continues as Vatican)
Now when the Bible actually foretold this chain of events then seriously we owe it to God and Yeshua to stand up and fix it as he meant.
Now fair enough on if a Pharisee, yet a member of the council or someone who could have collected that knowledge to me it makes the most sense of John Nicodemus as it is a personal account in the gospel of John where Nicodemus approaches Yeshua as no one else mentions it no one else would know the exact measurements of good brought for his death, yet the person who did that, would have .everyone else might have known what they were, yet not quantities.
The things is with this is its not a question that can be believed or not it is clear as day that John contradicts.
ok may take wise peoples to see it; as we see with the case of Paul and how our top theologians and peoples who really studied noticed that Paul is blatantly contradicting
John is slightly different he is claiming Yeshua said all them things, when clearly on many case they can be disproved by the other gospels of what Yeshua said, and the old testament as being way off and in fact to deter from ever following of Yeshua.
