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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. URAVIP2ME

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    Please post the Scriptures you have in mind for the ^ above ^ because without the Bible where do you learn about Jesus and his teachings.
    True, those who have a first or earlier resurrection of Revelation 20:6 are raised before others.
    The majority, according to Acts of the Apostles 24:15, will have a later resurrection. That is why the ' future tense ' is used in that verse that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection.......
    If Jesus' rule is forever then why does Jesus hand back God's kingdom to God as per 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.
    Right, Earth is Not heaven and never will be. If Adam had Not broken God's Law Adam would still be alive on Earth today in his permanent healthy physical body. ( Adam was never offered heaven ).
    Right, meek people (such as the sheep of Matthew 25:31-33) will Not commit crimes and will learn war No more according to Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3-4.
    Sure, if God chose to have the Earth consumed, but since that is Not God's purpose then as Ecclesiastes 1:4 B says the Earth abides forever. God created Earth to be inhabited according to Isaiah 45:18.
    Earth will become a beautiful paradisical garden as Eden was as described by chapter 35 of Isaiah.
     
  2. Fool

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    the flesh, the form is mutable. a tree isn't known by it's physical appearance. it's known by it's action.


    a person is no more/less a 3rd density form than from one month to another, or one time to another, as the form is mutable but the action is either service to self, or service to all as self.

    the earth is a sort of proving ground but the cultivator gets to rest for a period of time between passes of cultivating.

    Genesis 3:23
    Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
     
  3. URAVIP2ME

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    Yes, tree Not by appearance, but by actions such as in the illustration found at Matthew 7:20 ( known by behavior )
    Many believe Earth is a stepping stone ( proving ground ) to another world. If that was so there would be No need for a resurrection because the living do Not need a resurrection.
    As God promised at Genesis 8:22 there will always be seasons and day and night (forever).
     
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    I've never studied Revelations? I will look at your evidence for this claim, you have some, don't you?

    Revelations teachs that it's the words from Jesus mouth that will execute the wicked? And the Old Testament taught "an eye for an eye" and Moses taught that those who violate the sabbath should be stoned to death, what happened to those ideas?

    Mankinds history does not show evolving? Oh really. So when people used to drink fresh water contaminated with their own feces and caught dysentery and cholera, that was more evolved than modern people? And when people used to be afraid of comets and eclipses, that was more evolved? And when people blamed the ground shaking on God, that was better? And when people used to accuse others of being witch's and burned them at the stake, that was better? And when religious leaders (the pope) sentenced people to be burned at the stake for going against church dogma, that was better? And when women couldn't vote or have rights over their own children, was that better too? And when people enslaved other people, that was more evolved?

    Please provide any evidence that these are the last days, uh, you have some don't you? Let me guess, you don't.
     
  5. URAVIP2ME

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    or, as I find ' service to God ' as Mark 12:30 says to love (serve) God will all your heart, soul, mind and strength.
     
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    The verses you are interpreting as pantheistic, are actually descriptive of our purpose, nature, and adherence. This is why there is hell, for example, / not possible in pantheism.
    If 'logos' meant everything, John 1:1 then there could be no hell, or even division in character, //pantheism does not divide nature or character//, since deity is called the word/logos, Himself.
     
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  7. URAVIP2ME

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    First of all, I find the Bible book of Revelation is one Revelation ( not plural revelations )
    One Revelation comprised of 16 visions or very-vivid word pictures.
    Under the temporary Constitution of the Mosaic Law for ancient Israel an 'eye for an eye' was Not revenge but meant equal justice. The punishment should equal the crime. A crime witnessed by more than one person.
    There were No prisons, No jails in ancient Israel but ' cities of refuge '.
    Israel was never in the 'slave-trade business ' as the Untied States and other countries were.
    Since there were No debtors prisons then a person could pay off their debt by being a slave for 6 years or until the Jubilee Year set them free. What do you find wrong with Leviticus chapter 19.
    Since the Mosaic Law was only for one nation, the nations of ancient Israel, is why Jesus fulfilled that temporary Law according to Romans 10:4, thus fulling that system of sabbaths.
    People ignoring washing as brought out in the Mosaic Law is what helped spread diseases.
    What does Christendom ( so-called Christian but mostly in name only ) have to do with Scripture.
    Christendom mostly ignored Scripture in favor of man-made traditions like the people of Matthew 15:9.
    Luke's words proved true at Acts of the Apostles 20:29-30 that false shepherds would fleece the flock of God.
    That is also in harmony with Jesus' story about how genuine ' wheat ' Christians would grow together over the centuries with the fake ' weed/tares' Christians until the 'harvest time'. The harvest time, or the soon coming ' time of separation ' of Matthew 25:31-33,37 to take place on Earth before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.
     
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    First, we read about the selfish distorted form of love people display today as described at 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13.
    That is in sharp contrast with the definition of Christ-like love as defined at 1 Corinthians 13:4-6.
    When we pick up the morning newspaper we read about the 'bad news' about men's kingdoms or governments.
    Whereas, when we pick up Scripture we read about the 'good news' message about God's kingdom government of Daniel 2:44 that God's kingdom in the hands of Christ Jesus is the solution.
    Plus, as never before in history we see international fullfilment of Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8 in that due to modern technology rapid Bible translation is now possible and being done world wide thus the good news about God's kingdom is being proclaimed on such a vast global scale that even people living in remote areas of Earth can have Scripture in their own mother tongue or native languages. Do you know of anyone who has Not heard about the Bible.
     
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    ah but lest you forget, just as satan can be found in heaven, God can be found in hell.


    Psalm 139:8
    If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

    even heaven and earth cannot contain God, panentheism

    1 Kings 8:27
    "But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!
     
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    and that God is within self, know thyself. is the key to knowing God. gnosis is the kingdom of God within. revelation cannot be realized without self.

    Luke 11:52
    Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge. You did not enter yourselves, and you hindered those who were entering.”


    only the Most High can be of service to self, all else must be service to all as self, or I AM that i am.

    Mark 9:35
    And he sat down and called the twelve. And he said to them, “If anyone would be first, he must be last of all and servant of all.”
     
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