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Jesus's Kingdom, if jesus wasn't deity before, He is now[concept

Discussion in 'Same Faith Debates' started by Desert Snake, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Desert Snake

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    Jesus has been given all power, ie Jesu is on the Throne of Kingship, [it's His Kingship. What is sort of interesting is how this is obfuscated, to it somehow not being Jesus's Kingdom. No, it definitely is Jesus's Kingdom, regardless of how abstract you get with the verses.

    This however is what Jesus tells us, anyway. Jesus says He has been given all power, and that is inherent to who Jesus is.

    There can be a very strange obfuscation of this presented by religious organizations. Somehow, they present an idea that Jesus isn't in all power, even though Jesus Himself is the one who is definitely 'the one in power', Kingship.

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    Kingship is in concordance with the pre-incarnate Jesus, thusly why Jesus says, 'before abraham, I Am'.


     
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  2. LightofTruth

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    The power that Jesus has comes from his God. Anyone who reads the words of Jesus ought easily see that.
     
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    "14And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" Word is Christ, flesh is Jesus.
     
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    calm 12/9/2019

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    Jesus is God Himself, He is the Father Himself. (John 20:28) (John 14:7-10)
     
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    That's ridiculous because Jesus has a Father and a God.
    Jesus had told his disciples, when they asked to be shown the Father, that if they had seen Jesus they had seen the Father.

    Not that Jesus is his own Father, but because he represents all that the Father is by the spirit of the Father that had been given to him.

    The Scripture says that upon his resurrection Jesus is the exact imprint of his Father and that's what Thomas saw.
     
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    But not only that, Jesus is to rule in God's Kingdom as God Himself.
     
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