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Jesus Was Not A Jew

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by FearGod, Nov 26, 2012.

  1. tumbleweed41

    tumbleweed41 Resident Liberal Hippie

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    Yay!

    We both showed examples of a name staying the same, and changing spelling/pronunciation.

    Another example,

    Mehmed, Muhammet, or Muhamet (Turkish)
    Mohd (Some Southeastern Asian Countries)
    Mukhammad (Russia)


    Names are transliterated according to spelling rules, pronunciations, etc.

     
  2. Jainarayan

    Jainarayan In Hell I’ll Be In Good Company
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    :facepalm: Well know entities or persons, or marketable items are usually not translated. Even then the target language will come as close as possible to the original sounds. Japanese does not have /l/ phoneme. The closest Japanese can come is /r/. So George Michael would probably come out as George Miker.


    Surrender Dorothy!
     
  3. tumbleweed41

    tumbleweed41 Resident Liberal Hippie

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    BTW, that's the title of the Curious George books published in Korea.


    See how that works?
     
  4. Pastek

    Pastek Sunni muslim

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    In Africa they change it too

    Mamadou = Muhammad
    Adama = Adam
    Daouda = David (Daoud in arabic)
    Youssoufa = Youssef
    Maryama = Myriam
    Babakar = Abou Bakr/Boubaker
     
  5. FearGod

    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    Why,They don't have letter "R",the last language i ever think to learn is Korean or chinese :D
     
  6. Jainarayan

    Jainarayan In Hell I’ll Be In Good Company
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    My Korean dry cleaner tacks on "oo" to my name when she speaks to me. Apparently "Frunkoo" is the vocative of Frank (yes, my real name) in Korean. She uses the mechanics of her native language.
     
  7. Rakhel

    Rakhel Well-Known Member

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    A child's name is Michal. This does not translate into Michael, it translates into Michelle.
    Another child's name is Chiam, this translates into Charles.
    Names do translate. Simply because you will find articles where the name isn't translated, doesn't mean that the name can't be translated.

    Hell I know a couple of Mohammad's who prefer the English version. Mike or Moe.
     
  8. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    :facepalm:
     
  9. Desert Snake

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    That's not true, in many cases, the sound and spelling are vastly different. In cases where there is no direct correlation available, names are sometimes changed completely, sometimes to a similar sounding one.
     
  10. Trey of Diamonds

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    When I was working in Kazakhstan some of the Russian girls would call me Treyushka, usually when they wanted something. I had friends named Grigory, Ivan and Mikhail. I have no idea what that has to do with Jesus being a Jew, but I wanted to play the game too. :cool:
     
  11. Desert Snake

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    I figured that Mohammad was a fairly established name in the west, I don't know why that would have to be changed.
     
  12. Jainarayan

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    The woman who is a manager of a chain of mall stores is named Michal. When she told me her name I said "Ah, like King David's wife". Her eyes bugged open and she said "but nobody ever knows that!" Not bad for a ghostly white Italian-American Hindu, huh?
     
  13. Jainarayan

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    Because people are idiots. There was a guy who worked at the pharmacy whose name was Ahed. One day I saw his name tag said 'Ed'. I'm sure he got tired of telling people how his name was pronounced.
     
  14. Desert Snake

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    It doesn't really, besides the argument of what was Jesus's real name.
     
  15. Desert Snake

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    Anyways. if Jesus wasn't a Jew then what was he? Not a whole lot of opinions there, huh?
     
  16. Desert Snake

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    That's understandable. But...Mohammad? Geez, that's pretty common.
     
  17. Rakhel

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    Is that it? A facepalm?
    Nice Jay.
    Real nice of you.
    I happen to know what Chaim means in Hebrew. My son is named Chaim.

    What I was doing, while you were hiding behind your very tiny little hand playing peek-a-boo, was providing the English equivalent.
     
  18. Rakhel

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    One of my kids is named Michal. We have had quite a few problems with other people because of her name. Her original birth certificate said she was a boy(Hubby and I are still kicking ourselves for not keeping a copy of it). When we go to doctors offices, we listen for Micheal, because no one can pronounce her name correctly(and New York has a lot of Jews in it, so we are still surprised when this happens).

    However, her class is making an effort, they pronounce it Mee-chal, so this we are pleased
     
  19. Desert Snake

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    Yeah Jay, stop playing peek-a-boo with the facepalm.
     
  20. Rakhel

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    I don't know. I think it is fairly common as it stands. However, if some guy wants to go by a nickname he can and those are the names I see most going with.
     
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