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Featured Jesus vs the New Testament

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Disciple of Jesus, Mar 10, 2019.

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New testament representative of Jesus?

Poll closed Today at 1:13 PM.
  1. Yes

    66.7%
  2. No

    13.3%
  3. Somewhat, more representative

    13.3%
  4. Somewhat, less representative

    20.0%
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  1. Disciple of Jesus

    Disciple of Jesus Veteran Member

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    Yesu is the only authority in my religion. Transcendant Spirit Being, ie God.
     
  2. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    Oh my. I don't even know where to start on that. I know that you believe it. But it's simply not true.
     
  3. PruePhillip

    PruePhillip Well-Known Member

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    Maybe YOU are simply not true?
     
  4. Disciple of Jesus

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    'Jesus' is one of the names of God. It's actually a description name, and not only is what you say, not traditionally true, religiously, it's scholarly a bad argument, [purely academic or scholarly.

    You don't have an argument, that's for sure, because you would know what isn't a good argument, if you did.
     
  5. Disciple of Jesus

    Disciple of Jesus Veteran Member

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    Yet you don't make the direct correlation between your later religious tradition, and your arguments.
     
  6. Disciple of Jesus

    Disciple of Jesus Veteran Member

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    Hence refuting the basis of your arguments.
     
  7. mickt

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    there are no eyewitness accounts of jesus..
     
  8. mickt

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    there are no eyewitnesses of jesus..
     
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    sooda Well-Known Member

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    Judaic is an adjective. Judaism is a noun..
     
  10. Disciple of Jesus

    Disciple of Jesus Veteran Member

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    helps my argument, dude. Better for my argumemts.
     
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  11. Disciple of Jesus

    Disciple of Jesus Veteran Member

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    So?
     
  12. Disciple of Jesus

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    ...

    ^
    Read it again
     
  13. mickt

    mickt Member

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    The gospels don't appear in history until 160AD..the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH admits they are anonymous..there were zero eyewitness accounts of jesus...

    ..THE CATHOLICS were the ONLY christians from near the start.until 1520...you HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE JESUS EXISTED....NOT ONE EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT...PAUL THE APOSTLE DOES NOT MENTION THE GOSPELS...
     
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    sooda Well-Known Member

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    I get it, but here's the problem..

    The 4 gospels and Peter and Paul NEVER mention the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD.. Why not? If the information was written down after the 1st century AD, why would the fail to mention it.. at least as a fulfillment of prophecy?

    The Historical Reliability of the Gospels | Bible.org
     
  15. Disciple of Jesus

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    It doesn't matter. And it didn't matter, because 'Jesus', means 'Lord with us', not, 'some guy we're calling Lord'.

    For example, in different types of Christianity, you have everything from Jesus with no physical form, to partly physical form, to non literal Gospel interpretation, and other beliefs.

    Notice that except for some churches that are obsessed with making Jesus 'just a man', there is another context, to 'Jesus'. Jesus is a description, even without the New Testament. Of a G- d form.

    The god pre'exists manifestation, or otherwise, in Israel.

    • the pagan priests needed to scramble to maintain authority, so they invented types of christianity that kept aspects of their paganism, while recognizing that they had to conform it to the general belief. So, of course, some churches are going to say Jesus is just a man, or, obfuscate the nature of G- d, so forth, that isn't even important to them. Could've have figured that out yourself.
     
  16. mickt

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    there were thousands of guys named jesus in the first century..rome crucified a thousand of them..
     
  17. mickt

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    yes there were many types of christianity....but everything in the gospels today from from catholicism..
     
  18. Disciple of Jesus

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    The early church was constantly going after 'heresy', even to the extent that most now wouldn't even recognize some of these "differences". That tells me, the general Christians were not getting their beliefs from the church.
     
  19. Disciple of Jesus

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    For example, things considered 'modalism', and that may not mean the same things it does now, specifically, however forms of what they called 'modalism', they even said,

    Its really common here, so forth. How could something "common" a heresy, be from the church, if they're teaching something different? Couldn't be.
     
  20. Disciple of Jesus

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    Personally I call this 'Jesus vs Yoheshua'.

    This may not be true to names, but you get the picture.
     
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