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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, May 4, 2018.

  1. Fool

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    If Jesus comes again in the flesh, is that not reincarnation? And did he claim he would come as Jesus again, or did he claim to come as the Spirit of Truth? if he was before abraham, was he not the personality melchizedek then?
     
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    According to the scriptures Jesus is in a glorified state, His flesh is incorruptible...so I don't think it would be reincarnation from a biblical standpoint or my perspective. The account in the Bible says He will return in the same way He left, so I think that indicates Personally, rather than as a spirit of truth. I believe that Melchizedek in the scriptures is a picture of the eternal nature of Christ because it states that he was...without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God (Hebrews 7:3).

    Just my thoughts and what I see in the scriptures.
     
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    jesus also said the flesh counts for nothing; so then why is important that the flesh be incorruptible? where does it say this?
     
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    The resurrection is all about the redemption of our mortal bodies into a glorified, eternal state and victory over death...which Christ accomplished first and for us...

    ... in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” 1 Cor. 15:52-54
     
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    In the same way the saints came forth from their tombs; his spiritual understanding manifests through people living and being born everyday.

    Daniel 12:2

    And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-during, and some to reproaches -- to abhorrence age-during.


    The spirit of Cain for example, manifests itself the world-over.
     
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    created things are mortal. to become immortal they must become uncreated. without mother, without father, without days.

    jesus said unless you are born of spirit and water, you can in no wise inherit the kingdom of god. this comes from genesis 1:2. the spirit is eternal and gives birth to spirit. flesh gives birth to flesh so doesn't one have to put on the spiritual?. no one can go up to heaven except that one that came down from heaven. so then if the flesh didn't come down from heaven how can it arise?
     
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    I'll try to get back to this later. I have to go now. Have a good evening.
     
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    Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.
     
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    Thanks to John the Baptist, for making the way straight. -- Sometimes all you need is a little inspiration, to evolve. It was never about the water (a Christian legality for some).


    Matthew 3:9
    And do not think to say in yourselves, A father we have -- Abraham, for I say to you, that God is able out of these stones to raise children to Abraham.
     
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    so john was washing the outside of the cups vs jesus was washing the inside of the cups?
     
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    I would say John did a little of both.
     
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    When Jesus returns, Jesus will not be of flesh and blood. But in the Spirit
     
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    Jesus is in the spirit, but the spirit is invisible. When he returns there will be visible manifestation "For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." Mat 24:27.
     
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    Do you have any idea or clue, As to how people will be able to see Jesus at his return.

    Had you not read in
    1st Corinthians 15:52-That in a moment in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed"

    Seeing at the last trump, This being the last trumpet in the book of Revelation,

    We all shall be changed from this body of flesh and blood, To the spirit, This is how people will see Jesus as he is, in the Spirit, So we also be in the Spirit to see Jesus as he is in the Spirit.

    Therefore Matthew 24:27, Jesus is speaking about his return in the Spirit, and we shall also be changed from this body of flesh and blood to that of the Spirit, to see Jesus as he is in the Spirit.
     
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    everything is the spirit.

    genesis 1:2
    ecclesiastes 12:7
    john 1:3
     
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    i think the second time he comes he will be in his full glory and not a man.
     
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    Jesus' Second Coming
    Jesus had both bones and flesh. Right, please?
    He was not just a spirit, like every other human being he had a physical body and a soul. His teachings were from G-d and he followed them whole-heartedly and in this sense he was with G-d and from G-d like any other Jewish or non-Jewish prophet-messenger of G-d.
    Jesus' Second Coming, I believe, has already taken place in the spiritual or attributive/symbolic form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, it is not a reincarnation.
    Does it help, please?
    Regards
     
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    Jesus is God himself, in the body of flesh and blood.

    Jesus second coming hasn't happened yet.

    Before Jesus second coming happens, The last Prophecy of Revelation has to happen first.
    Which brings about the second coming of Christ Jesus.
     
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    One has a right to express one's opinion, please.
    Does one mean that Jesus had only flesh and blood and no bones,please?
    Regards
     
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    Jesus had all three, flesh,blood, bones.
     
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