Jesus real religion vs satans religions

[kjw47]

The rule--if another gospel is preached besides what Jesus and his apostles taught--then its false--correct?--YES.

Jesus--Paul--Peter--John----

John 20:17, Rev 3:12--2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6,1Cor 15:24-28--1Peter 1:3-- Rev 1:6------- all 100% in agreement--Jesus has a God-his Father=YHWH(Jehovah)

The #1 teaching taught in the nt.--proving a trinity god does not exist-- proving trinity translations are erred to make it look like a trinity, contradictory to Jesus and his real teachers.

Trinity religions = Mark 3:24-26-- a house divided will not stand--a disunified mass of confusion is what the world clearly sees. not of God. 2thess 2:3, 2Cor 11:12-15-ear ticklers.

1Cor 1:10--- unified in love and peace, worldwide brotherhood, in the same thought of mind, one under Jehovah and his son, even in this satan ruled system.

Jesus taught---man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God( ot-nt)--thus Jesus' real teachers teach every utterance from God to every member of the flock to live by daily, as important as sustaining ones physical being, ones spiritual being as well.

Making this the most important bottom line reality for all to do daily--- John 4:22-24=Jehovah.

 

[Sees]

Do you think the Father of Jesus is angry with people deifying Jesus? If angry, will he also keep salvation from them?

I know you can't speak for your God, just curious about personal opinion on the necessity of preaching against trinitarian doctrine.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Do you think the Father of Jesus is angry with people deifying Jesus? If angry, will he also keep salvation from them?

I know you can't speak for your God, just curious about personal opinion on the necessity of preaching against trinitarian doctrine.

He's a Jehovah's Witness. According to JWs, only faithful JWs get to spend eternity on a "paradise Earth" (minus the 144,000 special JWs who get to go to Heaven and reign with Christ for some unknown reason). The rest of us get annihilated out of existence at the Last Judgment.

So even if a person is a Christian who doesn't believe in the Trinity, they're still damned according to JWs.

 

[Sees]

He's a Jehovah's Witness. According to JWs, only faithful JWs get to spend eternity on a "paradise Earth" (minus the 144,000 special JWs who get to go to Heaven and reign with Christ for some unknown reason). The rest of us get annihilated out of existence at the Last Judgment.

So even if a person is a Christian who doesn't believe in the Trinity, they're still damned according to JWs.

Didn't remember all that! I thought it was a salvation prayer, witness, and read scripture faithfully = salvation, type of tradition. That it was important to know the truth per Watchtower but not absolutely, decisively necessary.

It does match up with the persistence though!

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Didn't remember all that! I thought it was a salvation prayer, witness, and read scripture faithfully = salvation, type of tradition. That it was important to know the truth per Watchtower but not absolutely, decisively necessary.

It does match up with the persistence though!

Well, they officially say that they don't judge Christians outside of the organization and that "if they begin to serve God" (whatever that specifically means) they could be saved. But they certainly do have a burning hatred for non-JW Christian denominations (which they derisively call "Christendom"), particularly Trinitarians and they have that old-timey anti-Catholicism from fundie, backwater Protestantism going on (you know, where they accuse the Catholic Church of being the "whore of Babylon" and a continuation of ancient Paganism...yeah, that kind of nonsense).
Jehovah's Witnesses and salvation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Will Only Jehovah’s Witnesses Be Saved? | FAQ

 

[Adramelek]

An interesting take on the Satanic religion.

When The Stars Come Right Again
by Dame Patricia Hardy, GME

We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age. - H.P. Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu".

The identification of mundane awareness as a form of protective ignorance is a constant theme in the Lovecraft Mythos.

Lovecraft regarded science as a possible exception, but as the quote suggests, he thought that aside from a small elite mankind was incapable of accepting the truth. (Thus the motto today ascribed to Miskatonic University: The Truth Shall Make You Flee.) In his view the universe, and the means of discovering it, would remain a fearful mystery to most humans. Symbols of this fear appear throughout the Mythos.

The Mythos admits no celestial promise of cosmic benevolence; rather the contrary. In such tales as "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath" Lovecraft distinguishes 'the mild gods of earth' from the incomprehensible alien gods, whose envoy is the diabolic Nyarlathotep. The distinction is easily grasped by anyone who compares the antics of rustic nature gods to the machinations of the Powers of Darkness. There is little Pan teaches that is not known to the beasts, as one may verify at any neoPagan festival. With the Prince of Darkness, under whatever name, it is a different story. Only the most persistent seeker, who leaves familiar haunts and wanders the cold wastes of Kadath, will encounter Nyarlathotep. And the brush with Nyarlathotep--as with Loki, Tezcatlipoca and Mephistopheles--involves truth, deception, choice, risk--all matters of the psyche.

Another Mythos theme also found in "occult" lore, is the gate. Gates link consensus reality and other realms of time and space. The presence of such gates is marked by baleful folklore and religious superstition. Stone circles appear in both "The Dunwich Horror" and in "The Lurker at the Threshold" as such gates. They are used by some, discovered and explored by others--but for most, they are regarded with awe or dread.

Outside fictional accounts, such "occult" structures point to startling perspectives on the part of their architects. These structures are gates--material signs of the door between the known and the unknown, between the terrestrial and the cosmic. Yet this is recognized by only a tiny elite even today. For every person who reads Hawkins' analysis of the astronomical nature of the magalithic circles in Stonehenge Decoded, there are hundreds of thousands who will tell you that these were the sites of "Druid sacrifices". Similarly, for every Setian who reads Lockyer's The Dawn of Astronomy there are thousands of New Agers who believe in "pyramid power", and millions of folks whose ideas about the Pyramids come from watching The Ten Commandments.

Never was I more astonished than when I read that ignorant rendering of ancient astronomy had converted the Precession--the "fall" of the constellation Draco from the axis of the sky in 3000 BCE and its return to that position in 26,000 years--into Biblical myths of the fall and future rise of the Dragon of "Revelations"! Ia! Shub-Niggurath! May the gifted of Set rule on a thousand worlds when that night falls on Terra!--when the stars come right again!

Returning to the magical use of such symbols in the Mythos--these links with the Beyond may be incorporated into Setian Workings in order to destroy old horizons and bring new ones into being. Recall the discussion of Greater Black Magic in our guidebook:

"It is in the process of making the preliminary exploration of the subjective and objective universes that the Black Magician begins to discover and ultimately to know how things really work."

What are some guidelines, then, may be considered in Workings that use Lovecraftian themes?

First: explore the range of human response to the Unknown. Xeper is the principle which transformed apelike creatures into modern humans and which will ultimately transform modern humans into other forms; nor is there reason to think that we are alone. Read science fiction stories on First Contact and analyze the author's tacit beliefs. Compare them to your own. Read historical accounts of contacts between different human cultures and a text on anthropology. Enhanced imagination and improved capacity to cope with both the familiar and the alien will aid the creation of successful Workings.

Consider, for example, the use of "Yuggothic" in the Lovecraftian rituals written for The Satanic Bible. The commentary on these rituals in The Church of Satan describes the reasoning behind Yuggothic: a synthetic language that would reasonably convey the mentality ascribed to the nonhuman, extraterrestrial Old Ones. Contrast this with the New Age practice of 'channeling'. 'Channels' never find it odd that dolphin group minds, Lemurian Ascended Masters and Space Brothers from the Pleiades use perfect English, nor do they think about of the problems of interpretation, such as typically concern UN translators & diplomats. They take it at face value. Even regarded as fantasy this is woefully lacking. For the sake of the ETs and humanity alike we must hope that none of these 'channels' are involved when the Arachnids from Denebola stop by.

Second: put aside the naturalistic formula, "technology vs. magic". The Lovecraftian concept of magic as futuristic, alien technology calls for "mad scientist" toys as well as use of lighting and optical illusions, electronic sound and other techniques to help detach spatial and temporal awareness from their usual moorings.

Many devices sold for advertising or parties, such as light ropes, strobes, and laser light displays, can be adapted for this purpose. By now many Setians have experimented with plasma globes from Radio Shack and other sources--I have even seen a battery-operated model capable of being perched on a crystal ball stand.

One ritual chamber I know of has a number of mirrors suspended by wires in an irregular radial pattern over an altar positioned in the corner, thus producing multiple reflections. UV-sensitive paint and string may be used along with black lights to construct geometric structures "floating" in the chamber.

As for sound, Lovecraftian Workings benefit from certain types of industrial and synthesizer music. Avoid "cosmic lullabies". Look for pure sweep tones and hair-prickling atonal mixes with strange rhythms, vaguely akin to the sounds heard near a jungle stream at dusk, yet evocative of polar vistas or deep space. One favorite selection of mine comes from "The Insect Musicians", by Graeme Revell--a Middle-Eastern drone created entirely from sampled and reprocessed sounds of several kinds of insects.

[Note: In Munich a few years ago the Aurora Borealis Lodge of the Order of the Trapezoid used as ritual music a stunning audio recording made from the electromagnetic emissions associated with the "northern lights".]

For me, conventional incense does not really "fit" in a Lovecraftian rite. Negative ion generators and van de Graf generators (which emit great quantities of negative ions) have an excellent effect on the chamber atmosphere. The ozone created by the spark of Tesla coils and Jacob's Ladders is also suitable. Everything in the chamber must in one way or another reinforce the sense of approach to the unknown, of strange geometries
and plasticity in the flow of time.

Ponder Runa, and let your exploration be twofold. Address both the subjective meaning of the desire and the means of its objective fulfillment, the Abyss Within and the Abyss Beyond. Then the results of your Work may exceed your expectations--and I affirm this, having no certainty that I will attain the ultimate goal of my quest and no guarantee you will attain yours--but be prepared.

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Xeper.
/Adramelek\

 

[Faybull]

it is "clear", a messenger is sent

 

[kjw47]

He's a Jehovah's Witness. According to JWs, only faithful JWs get to spend eternity on a "paradise Earth" (minus the 144,000 special JWs who get to go to Heaven and reign with Christ for some unknown reason). The rest of us get annihilated out of existence at the Last Judgment.

So even if a person is a Christian who doesn't believe in the Trinity, they're still damned according to JWs.

Only those living to do the Fathers will-NOW--will enter his kingdom-Matt 7:21--Jesus taught this--are you living to do the Fathers will? one can do 99% of it and then partake off the table of demons and lose out-1Cor 10:21) God teaches one cannot do both.
Encyclopedias( facts of history) prove of the added table of demons( pagan practices to both Easter and Christmas. Jesus would have 0 to do with either.

 

[kjw47]

Well, they officially say that they don't judge Christians outside of the organization and that "if they begin to serve God" (whatever that specifically means) they could be saved. But they certainly do have a burning hatred for non-JW Christian denominations (which they derisively call "Christendom"), particularly Trinitarians and they have that old-timey anti-Catholicism from fundie, backwater Protestantism going on (you know, where they accuse the Catholic Church of being the "whore of Babylon" and a continuation of ancient Paganism...yeah, that kind of nonsense).
Jehovah's Witnesses and salvation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Will Only Jehovah’s Witnesses Be Saved? | FAQ

You are mistaken--every false religion makes up the whore of Babylon--99% of them fail to teach Gods will. Matt 7:21-- Very few even know the true God.--the 99% of religions all allow the flock to partake off the table of demons--1Cor 10:21)--Jesus warned the Laodecians in Rev--per-se--if one is sitting on the fence( partaking of both tables)--he will vomit them out.

Its not the humans that are spoken against--its the lies the religions teach--the false trinity god besides many other gods--they do not exist--it is satan posing as them--they are being mislead-2Thess 2:3--2Cor 11:12-15

 

[kjw47]

Didn't remember all that! I thought it was a salvation prayer, witness, and read scripture faithfully = salvation, type of tradition. That it was important to know the truth per Watchtower but not absolutely, decisively necessary.

It does match up with the persistence though!

Living to do Gods will( in every step of life) is what is required of one--Matt 7:21