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OK… but that is verse 2.
It goes on to say:
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
(If Jesus was a created being that verse would be false. I, as verse 1 says, “The Word WAS God” - then there is harmony.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
God is light - Jesus is light - Jesus is God
God is life - Jesus is life - Jesus is God
John 8:
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him:
YUP - He is God.
- Please Kenny, don't you feel a private conversation with Jesus and his disciples is reliable and trustworthy words for us to believe in?
- These scriptures may be helpful? Matthew 13:11, Mark 4:34, Mark 4:11, Acts 3:22, Luke 8:9-10
Much Love
- Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did. Matthew 16:16-17
- And Jesus is the Mighty God that is prophesied to be Born and called Mighty God at Isaiah 9:6, which also agrees with John 1:1
- The Almighty called Moses a God at Exodus 7:1, Surely Jesus is Much Higher than Moses, Our Mighty God Sent by The one Jesus says is The One True God. --John 17:3
I agree absolutely with the scriptures you found, it was 3:00 in the morning when I wrote that.ASV
And Jehovah said unto Moses, See, I have made thee as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
AMP
Then the Lord said to Moses, “Now hear this: I make you as God to Pharaoh [to declare My will and purpose to him]; and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.
AMPC
The Lord said to Moses, Behold, I make you as God to Pharaoh [to declare My will and purpose to him]; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet.
I love Harmony too, like you.I would never disagree with God’s word and it all agrees with harmony!
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
Who are you that you would know?did he ?? as for Adam he at one time was considered perfect but then lost the privilege of interacting with God . Jimb ,who are you that you would know?
is more correct, I agree with you!“as” God to Pharaoh
I believe you don't have a leg to stand on.There are five versions of Jesus in the NT, Paul's and the four gospels'. Each one of them expressly denies that he's God, and never claims to be God. i set out some examples here >Jesus Failed Right?<.
I believe you are wrong. Jesus is God in the flesh. I believe God is Spirit and that does exist in Jesus.Jesus is not God in flash. But maybe it can be said that He was God's Spirit.
It also says this in Hebrews 1:1-4, "Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds. He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact imprint of God’s very being, and he sustains all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs."OK… but that is verse 2.
It goes on to say:
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
(If Jesus was a created being that verse would be false. I, as verse 1 says, “The Word WAS God” - then there is harmony.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
God is light - Jesus is light - Jesus is God
God is life - Jesus is life - Jesus is God
John 8:
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him:
YUP - He is God.
I believe Jesus speak with authority as God Himself.If a king or government leader has an emissary or representative, he speaks for the one who sent him.
Of course Moses is not God to us, this is something that happened over 3,000 years ago, but Moses was God to Pharaoh just like the verse explains.I’m sure that if you ask the Jewish brothers they wouldn’t agree with your interpretation.
Hebrews 1:8 NSB(i) But he says to the Son: »God is your throne forever and ever. (Your throne, Oh God-like one, is forever.) A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. (Psalm 45:6, 7)It also says this in Hebrews 1:1-4, "Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds. He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact imprint of God’s very being, and he sustains all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs."
and Hebrews 1:8, "But of the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
and the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom”
Anyone who doesn't realize that Jesus is God must read the New Testament until s/he does!
Jesus words in private with his disciples and when he talks to his Father in prayer is my Rock, is my Truth is my Foundation!Hebrews 1:8 NSB(i) But he says to the Son: »God is your throne forever and ever. (Your throne, Oh God-like one, is forever.) A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. (Psalm 45:6, 7)
Goodspeed(i) 8 But of the Son he says, "God is your throne forever and ever! And a righteous scepter is the scepter of his kingdom! 9 You have loved right and hated wrong! That is why God, your God, has anointed you with exhilarating oil beyond all your comrades." --Hebrews 1:8-9
Lamsa(i) 9 You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore, God, even your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness more than your fellows. --Hebrews 1:9
Williams(i) 9 You loved the right and hated wrong; so God, your God, anointed you, with oil of exultation beyond all your companions." --Hebrews 1:9
BBE(i) 9 You have been a lover of righteousness and a hater of evil; and so God, your God, has put the oil of joy on your head more than on the heads of those who are with you.--Hebrews 1:9
MKJV(i) 9 You have loved righteousness and hated iniquity, therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness above Your fellows."
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I can consider a concept that God worked in Jesus, but not the concept of the trinity. The trinity teaching teaches that God became a man and then it teaches that well "God the Father really didn't, but He did, but He didn't, but He did, but He didn't..."I believe Jesus speak with authority as God Himself.
I agree with you on most points, Thank You for all your fine comments.I can consider a concept that God worked in Jesus, but not the concept of the trinity. The trinity teaching teaches that God became a man and then it teaches that well "God the Father really didn't, but He did, but He didn't, but He did, but He didn't..."
See the typical creed. In one sentence we have: "I believe one God, the Father, the Almighty..." It's a complete statement, a compete sentence. Here, God is clearly identified as one, the Father. Then it adds more. I see it as an attempt to teach the truth, but also include the adaptations for Greco-Roman polytheists.
So, I may not go as far as you with regards to the relationship of Jesus to God, but I have a much more monotheistic belief about it, as you do. Your thinking reflects truth and purity, IMHO.
The NT has five versions of Jesus and each of them denies that he's God and never claims to be God. Once again, you'll find some of the relevant quotes set out here >Jesus Failed Right?<I believe you don't have a leg to stand on.
Adam was God’s son. He wasn’t God.
Neither are angels… although they are called God’s sons.
God is unique. None of His progeny, equate to being Him.
Alternatively, the claim is that Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son of God.Agreed, but then Jesus was God's begotten son, Adam was not.
No angel is called the begotten Son of God. Jesus is the begotten Son of God.
Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God.