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Jesus is Coming

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
if jesus is coming, how are you going to know it's him? if you are not watching the skies constantly, how is he going to get your attention?


is 2000+ years soon enuf? fashionably late?


 

Nova2216

Active Member
I am sure the people (scoffers) of Noah's day said the same about the coming flood. (Gen. 6)

But when the rain fell...


Re 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

We will all know when Christ returns.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The day of the Lord...AS A thief...

Meaning suddenly and without warning.

I see a theif comes when the owner is not aware.

I see clouds are things that prevent us seeing the sun in its full splendour.

So in saying every eye shall see, does not mean that every eye will see immediately, it may take many hundreds of years before every eye shall see. Only a few see at the beginning. Those that were not asleep, another warning given by Jesus the Christ.

Regards Tony
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I see a theif comes when the owner is not aware.

I see clouds are things that prevent us seeing the sun in its full splendour.

So in saying every eye shall see, does not mean that every eye will see immediately, it may take many hundreds of years before every eye shall see. Only a few see at the beginning. Those that were not asleep, another warning given by Jesus the Christ.

Regards Tony


more of a spiritual/mental level of maturity vs physical one?


 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
if jesus is coming, how are you going to know it's him? if you are not watching the skies constantly, how is he going to get your attention?


is 2000+ years soon enuf? fashionably late?



Enoch, who was taken to the Most High in the creation while still alive, was in the valley of man, or the spiritual dimension that co-exists within our three dimensional world for three thousand years or three days, before revealing himself in the man Jesus.

Elijah, who was also taken up while still alive, has now been in the valley of man for neigh on three days, and is to appear immediately before the great day of God's terrible wrath.

Look to the middle East Fool and you will know the time.

Zechariah 14: 1-3; The day when the LORD will sit in judgement is near. Then Jerusalem will be looted, and the loot will be divided up before your eyes. The LORD will bring all the nations together to make war on Jerusalem. The city will be taken, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the people will go into exile, but the rest of them will not be taken away from the city. Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he has fought in times past.

The war to end all wars, which, if not for the intervention of the Lord no flesh would survive, but for the sake of his chosen and elect he will intervene.

And for a thousand years, the day of the Lord, the great Sabbath of which the weekly Sabbath was but a shadow of that reality, the Lord God our savior shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death. See Acts 17: 31.
 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
if jesus is coming, how are you going to know it's him? if you are not watching the skies constantly, how is he going to get your attention?
is 2000+ years soon enuf? fashionably late?

Do you really want to know?

"And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory."-Mark 13:26.

Jesus will be coming on the clouds. It will not be any physical manifestation on earth. That is why he said:

Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it...if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it."-Matthew 24:23, 26.

There have been people on earth who have claimed to be the Christ. But they are obvious false Christs sent by Satan to mislead. Jesus is coming "in the clouds," "with the clouds." He is an invisible spirit in heaven. And thus his return will not be visible physically. But he will appear in heaven, not visible to the human eye:

"Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him."-Revelation 1:7.

But every eye will see him. How?

Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.  Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory"-Matthew 24:29, 30.

Notice that his supernatural manifestation which all humankind, "every eye will see him," must acknowledge will come after the foretold great tribulation. The Bible foretells that Jesus will put it in the hearts of the world's political rulers to unite and turn upon all false religion and destroy it as justice and vengeance from God for her detestable and wicked act. This in itself will be very fear-inspiring. After religion has been swept from off the earth, "immediately after the tribulation of those days" supernatural signs and portents will appear in heaven heralding the return of Christ and the impending battle of Armageddon and the subsequent end of all ungodly, unrighteous humankind in opposition to God's righteous kingdom government in heaven.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
more of a spiritual/mental level of maturity vs physical one?

I choose not to watch any video with inappropriate content. The video picture means I will not even push play.

The degeneration of media is a sign of a decaying moral mind.

There is very little to watch now with most media containing foul mouths and pornagraphic content.

Regards Tony
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Do you really want to know?

"And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory."-Mark 13:26.

Jesus will be coming on the clouds. It will not be any physical manifestation on earth. That is why he said:

Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it...if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it."-Matthew 24:23, 26.

There have been people on earth who have claimed to be the Christ. But they are obvious false Christs sent by Satan to mislead. Jesus is coming "in the clouds," "with the clouds." He is an invisible spirit in heaven. And thus his return will not be visible physically. But he will appear in heaven, not visible to the human eye:

"Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him."-Revelation 1:7.

But every eye will see him. How?

Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.  Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory"-Matthew 24:29, 30.

Notice that his supernatural manifestation which all humankind, "every eye will see him," must acknowledge will come after the foretold great tribulation. The Bible foretells that Jesus will put it in the hearts of the world's political rulers to unite and turn upon all false religion and destroy it as justice and vengeance from God for her detestable and wicked act. This in itself will be very fear-inspiring. After religion has been swept from off the earth, "immediately after the tribulation of those days" supernatural signs and portents will appear in heaven heralding the return of Christ and the impending battle of Armageddon and the subsequent end of all ungodly, unrighteous humankind in opposition to God's righteous kingdom government in heaven.


unfortunately some people have died and haven't seen him. it doesn't say every eye will see at the same moment. jerusalem was already looted in 70 ad and some still didn't get a view of him.


some will be taken, enraptured, and others will be dissatisfied, bored maybe even depressed, or contemptible with the results.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
1 Thessalonians 5:2"For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night."

What Does the Bible Say About As A Thief In The Night? has lots of verses with that image. And the context is that those who are 'awake' sense the presence of the Divine thief and welcome him so stay 'awake'.

Sri Aurobindo wrote of the "hour of God":

Unhappy is the man or the nation which, when the divine moment arrives, is found sleeping or unprepared to use it, because the lamp has not been kept trimmed for the welcome and the ears are sealed to the call.
...
In the hour of God cleanse thy soul of all self-deceit and hypocrisy and vain self-flattering that thou mayst look straight into thy spirit and hear that which summons it.

Sri Aurobindo — The Hour of God
 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
unfortunately some people have died and haven't seen him. it doesn't say every eye will see at the same moment. jerusalem was already looted in 70 ad and some still didn't get a view of him.


some will be taken, enraptured, and others will be dissatisfied, bored maybe even depressed, or contemptible with the results.

It is referring to every eye when he returns. Countless numbers have died who have not seen or known the Christ.

In the coming resurrection everyone, both good and bad, in God's memory will be resurrected on earth and taught about the Christ. So eventually, in God's time everyone will eventually see the Christ, and know the truth.

Everyone who has ever lived will eventually have to recognize him and his authority. It does not matter if it is at his return before the destruction of the ungodly, or in the future resurrection where many untold numbers will be taught about Jesus, or even now, a small number who God has drawn to him and his Christ. Everyone will eventually have to know and recognize the truth, whether they want to or not.

That is why it is not to concerning to me if one wishes to refuse to acknowledge him in this system. That is also why it matters little to God and his Christ. They have already purposed for a time when all will have the fetters over their eyes removed.
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
Do you really want to know?

"And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory."-Mark 13:26.

Jesus will be coming on the clouds. It will not be any physical manifestation on earth. That is why he said:

Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it...if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it."-Matthew 24:23, 26.

There have been people on earth who have claimed to be the Christ. But they are obvious false Christs sent by Satan to mislead. Jesus is coming "in the clouds," "with the clouds." He is an invisible spirit in heaven. And thus his return will not be visible physically. But he will appear in heaven, not visible to the human eye:

"Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him."-Revelation 1:7.

But every eye will see him. How?

Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.  Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory"-Matthew 24:29, 30.

Notice that his supernatural manifestation which all humankind, "every eye will see him," must acknowledge will come after the foretold great tribulation. The Bible foretells that Jesus will put it in the hearts of the world's political rulers to unite and turn upon all false religion and destroy it as justice and vengeance from God for her detestable and wicked act. This in itself will be very fear-inspiring. After religion has been swept from off the earth, "immediately after the tribulation of those days" supernatural signs and portents will appear in heaven heralding the return of Christ and the impending battle of Armageddon and the subsequent end of all ungodly, unrighteous humankind in opposition to God's righteous kingdom government in heaven.

Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.  Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory"-Matthew 24:29, 30.

One of the worst tribulations that the earth has suffered in recent times occurred some 75,000 years ago with the Toba super eruption, which was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth’s largest eruptions.

Thousands of cubic kilometres of material would have been blasted out into the stratosphere blocking out the light all over the world, turning the sun and moon into huge blood red orbs and causing the earth’s temperature to drop some 21% and it would possibly have been a thousand years, before rainbows could form in our atmosphere again.

The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world’s proto-human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.

Could an eruption such as this, be more of a blessing, than a curse, could a protective shield around the earth to protect us from increased heavenly radiation for a period of time, be established, to give us time to prepare for the ultimate end of all physical life forms that remain on this planet, and if so how?

The huge column of molten rock that feeds Yellowstone's "super volcano" dives deeper and fills a magma chamber 20 percent bigger than previous estimates, scientists say. The finding, based on the most detailed model yet of the region's geologic plumbing, suggests that Yellowstone's magma chamber contains even more fuel for a future "super eruption" than anyone had suspected.

The model shows that a 45-mile-wide (72-kilometer-wide) plume of hot, molten rock rises to feed the super volcano from at least 410 miles (660 kilometers) beneath Earth's surface. The deepest part of the plume actually sits beneath the town of Wisdom, Montana, about 150 miles (241 kilometers) from Yellowstone National Park, a steady flow of hot rock in Earth's upper mantle causes the plume to drift to the southeast, where it fills a magma chamber that sits just 3.7 to 10 miles (5.9 to 16 kilometers) beneath Yellowstone.

Other new data show that Yellowstone's magma chamber extends 13 miles (21 kilometers) farther to the northeast than previously thought. Scientists had already known that Yellowstone is a volcanic hot spot, and that within the past two million years, the region has seen three mammoth eruptions at intervals of about 600,000 years, and it is 640,000 years since it’s last eruption. Such events it is said, can produce at least 77 cubic miles (360 cubic kilometers) of basalt: enough to bury Washington, D.C., under nearly 7,200 feet (2,200 meters) of solidified lava.

The ground beneath Yellowstone is said to be 74cm higher today than it was in 1923, which indicates a massive swelling beneath the Park. Scientists believe that the reservoir of Magma is filling at an alarming rate and as that volcano erupts with an average cycle of 600,000 years and the last eruption was more than 640,000 years ago we are overdue for annihilation.

Forget about the death total within the immediate period of the explosive eruption, but just imagine what happens to our communication and ground and air transport systems, fuel supplies, power grids, atomic power stations spewing out radiation into the atmosphere, etc, etc.

What did Jesus say concerning that day? "Pray that your flight be not in winter, (The nuclear/volcanic winter) and woe unto the women who are pregnant in those days.

Zechariah 14: 6; And it shall come to pass in that day, (The Lord’s Day of one thousand years) that the light shall not be clear or dark: and it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that evening time it shall be light. On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter. The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.

Could the Great prophesied war in the Middle East be the trigger to set off the volcano beneath Yellowstone, bringing in a thousand- year period of twilight in which rainbows can't form in our atmosphere? And when, according to Isaiah 65: 20, "If one were to die during that period at the age of 100, they would be but a child.

In that day says Isaiah, the lion will lay down with the sheep and all people will live out their full life span. A hundred-year old person will be considered to be but a child etc.

Revelation 20: 7-9: It is after the thousand year rule of Christ has ended (How long after? Nobody knows.) that the last trumpet will sound and the fire from heaven descends and incinerates the surface of this planet as prophesied by Zephaniah.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What Does the Bible Say About As A Thief In The Night? has lots of verses with that image. And the context is that those who are 'awake' sense the presence of the Divine thief and welcome him so stay 'awake'.

Sri Aurobindo wrote of the "hour of God":

Unhappy is the man or the nation which, when the divine moment arrives, is found sleeping or unprepared to use it, because the lamp has not been kept trimmed for the welcome and the ears are sealed to the call.
...
In the hour of God cleanse thy soul of all self-deceit and hypocrisy and vain self-flattering that thou mayst look straight into thy spirit and hear that which summons it.

Sri Aurobindo — The Hour of God

I see the world is finding it was asleep.

Many unhappy men and nations are the result.

Regards Tony
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
if jesus is coming, how are you going to know it's him? if you are not watching the skies constantly, how is he going to get your attention?
I subscribed to Jesus His Channel, so I get a heads-up
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
I see the world is finding it was asleep.

Many unhappy men and nations are the result.

Regards Tony

Perhaps that is because of the false messiah's who claim to be the comforter sent by God, who have dulled the minds of the gullible, and hidden from the world the truths as revealed in the Holy Scriptures.
 
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