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"Jesus as an openly gay man"

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Skwim, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    "What if the newly found codices provided evidence of Jesus's same-sex activity? Michael Ruse imagines the implications

    The most astounding finding from the newly discovered lead codices is that Jesus Christ was unambiguously and openly gay. He and his disciples formed a same-sex coterie, bound by feelings of love and mutual support. There are recorded instances of same-sex activity – the "beloved disciple" plays a significant role – and there is affirmation of the joys of friendship and of living and loving together.
    source and more
    :run:
     
  2. David69

    David69 Angel Of The North

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    yeah well christianity has warped every thing about jesus so am not suprised! even said his mother was a virgin!!!
     
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  3. outhouse

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    except the lead codices have been found a fraud
     
  4. YmirGF

    YmirGF Bodhisattva

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    Anything to back this statement up? I have not bothered reading about them too much. My interest level in their contents is pretty low.
     
  5. no-body

    no-body Well-Known Member

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    What does "Same-sex" activity mean? I mean if the codices describe Jesus having orgies with his apostles or explicitly making love to his "beloved disciple" OK but same sex friendships where a lot closer back in olden times. Men used to sleep together in beds and kiss, hug, etc each other but it was all quite platonic and part of the culture. You can't view the past with the eyes of the future.
     
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  6. opuntia

    opuntia Religion is Law

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    The scriptures have been twisted before by others and will be twisted again. There is a warning given by Peter that no scripture is of any private interpretation (2 Peter 3:15-16). Any interpretation must conform to God's will. If it does not conform, trouble will come to those who have twisted said scripture. You cannot play with God's things and not expect trouble.
     
  7. outhouse

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  8. kutulu

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    in ancient times it was not at all uncommon or taboo to participate in homosexuality.
    people now a-days seem to think that the ancients had the same ideals as us but were less educated at the same time. lol
     
  9. David69

    David69 Angel Of The North

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    suposedly inscest was rife to!
     
  10. Breathe

    Breathe Hostis humani generis

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    That is an excellent point.
    We don't even know who the "Beloved Disciple" is. Some claim it was Mary Magdalene, even.


    If it turns out he was, then I guess fundamentalist Christians have to allow same-sex marriages :p


    !!! How would Westboro Baptist Church react?
     
  11. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    So how does a person determine that their interpretation conforms to god's will and thus avert trouble? Sounds like a hazardous undertaking at best, and the prudent approach; not to interpret them at all. Let sleeping dogs lie (just ignore scripture) would appear to be the best advice.
     
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    Or at least, with the idea of Sola Scriptura comes responsibility of interpretation. I think personally that it is best to see any Scripture under spiritual, or metaphorical eyes; otherwise taking anything that is of infallible level to the point that the words themselves are divine; to me, such is a form of idolatry in itself.
     
  13. blackout

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    Even if he was,
    and just for the sake of discussion,
    NO amount of evidence
    would ever serve as proof
    for mainstream christianity.

    Whatever it was,
    it would not matter,
    it would be rejected as true,
    it would be thrown out as false evidence.

    Mainstream christianity would not, could not
    allow this idea to stand.
     
  14. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    You're absolutely right.
     
  15. The Neo Nerd

    The Neo Nerd Well-Known Member

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    Yep it would be swept under the rug like the other facts that contradict their beliefs.

    -Q
     
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    Well Christianity book BIBLE is so much changed and written many times that no one say any thing about them But i know he is the man made by GOD and Hid mother is really a virgin. It's a miracle of GOD shown to the world that GOD can do any thing.
     
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    He can even accept that his only son is gay,
    and present him to you
    as your savior.
     
  18. David69

    David69 Angel Of The North

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    I reckn Jesus had 3 kids to mary m and lived happy ever after :)
     
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    Comicaze247 See the previous line

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    They made that part up to convert the Roman army, tricking them into thinking that they worshipped the same god with a different name.
     
  20. Abuser

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    That's why oldschool Batman and Robin seem totally gay.
     
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