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Jesus appearance.

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by calm, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. calm

    calm Active Member

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    Daniel 7:9
    As I looked, thrones were placed, and the Ancient of Days took his seat; his clothing was white as snow, and the hair of his head like pure wool;

    1. Jesus has wooly hair.
    _____
    Revelation 1:14
    The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow.

    2. Jesus has white hair.
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    Revelation 1:15
    his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace,

    3. Jesus has a burnished bronze skin color.
    Which looks like that:

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    So who looks more like Jesu? The left oneor the right one?
    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    well if that guy shows up at my house
    in the middle of the night
    like a thief

    I might take a shot at him

    just saying
     
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  3. Terry Sampson

    Terry Sampson Well-Known Member

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    I kind of like this version:

    blacknwhite shroud.jpg
     
  4. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    I suspect.....He will look like...…

    me
     
  5. calm

    calm Active Member

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    You really think it's real?
    Don't you know according to the bible it's a shame to have long hair as a man? So how do you explain that in your picture Jesus has long hair?
    1 Corinthians 11:14-15
    Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,
    15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

    And why do you see straight hair instead of woolly hair?
     
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  6. Terry Sampson

    Terry Sampson Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm, ... lose the shades and cowled robe, and give you a beating with a cat-o'nine tails, and ... yeah, I might see some resemblance. :D
     
  7. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
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    Here is what I think has a very good chance of being a real photograph of Jesus. Don't smirk until you read the full story.

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein I'm not deaf, I'm just a real bad listener
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    If he's black? Wow. Says more about you than anything else.
     
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  9. Terry Sampson

    Terry Sampson Well-Known Member

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    Do I think it's real? Yeah, ... it's kind of hard to photograph things that aren't real.
    Oh, wait, ... you mean: Do I think the shroud in the photograph is the actual shroud which once was used to cover the body of the crucified Jesus of Nazareth?
    As a matter of fact, I'm inclined to favor that opinion, but whether it is or isn't, I still like it: kind of like a banner that sums up Paul's gospel, stated in I Corinthians 15:
    • 3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received—that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, 4 and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day according to the scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 Then he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8 Last of all, as though to one born at the wrong time, he appeared to me also.
    You don't think it's the actual shroud used to cover the body of the crucified Jesus of Nazareth? Cool! You're not going to get an argument over its authenticity out of me.
    Believing in or rejecting its authenticity is not going to get anyone into heaven or keep them out.

    Do I know that according to the bible it's a shame to have long hair as a man? Sorry, you're lecturing a Gentile who firmly believes that Paul's word on the matter was his opinion and nonbinding. You don't like it? Sue me.

    Me:
    • Daniel says the Ancient of Days has head hair like "pure wool."
      • You need to get out more. Here's some pure wool:
      • Screenshot_2019-09-24 Long haired sheep - Google Search(1).png Screenshot_2019-09-24 Long haired sheep - Google Search.png
    • Revelation 1:14: Connect the dots ....
      • Dot 1 - Hair of the head
      • Dot 2 - white
      • Dot 3 - white wool
      • Dot 4 - (white) snow
      • What's common to Dots 2, 3, and 4?
        • You say "wool",
        • I say "white"
    • Revelation 1:15: "feet like burnished bronze, refined in fire"
      • You say, like this:
      • Screenshot_2019-09-24 Jesus appearance .png
      • I say, like this:
      • Screenshot_2019.png
    • So,which of us is wrong and going to Hell?
     
  10. KenS

    KenS Face to face with my Father
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    A great example of literalism.
     
  11. Thief

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    I joke about it....a little
    strangers would come right up to me and say.....
    You look like Him

    my neighbor did it
    she made a point of it
    crossed over the yard as I was working around the house
    said so.....only that one thing
    turned about and left

    she has since then ...suffered....and passed on
    may she rest in peace

    but also a company dinner where my wife works
    someone I don't know said so....over the table
    nothing more.....just that one thing

    and that woman at the dollar general
    snuck up on me a took a strand of my hair
    she claimed she had to have it

    and the people I work with keep pointing their fingers at me
    when things don't go well
    they know the fail is not my handiwork
    but they need a scapegoat
    someone to blame

    as you can see....I'm trying to go cognito
    I cut my hair short nowadays
    the double chin style of beard …..I keep almost to stuble

    but the image is more than that....
    someday I will stand before God and heaven
    and the image I really am …..I cannot hide
    what then of me …..having carried a resemblance?
    and not so much the grace
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    oh.....and if it's all the same to you people...

    I hope to have a hooded robe
    if the angelic allow me to walk among them

    I expect to keep my face hidden
    my head bowed
     
  13. Deeje

    Deeje Avid Bible Student
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    Well, actually it is the Father who is identified as "the Ancient of Days, in Daniel....not Jesus.
    Daniel 7:13-14 says...
    "I kept looking in the night visions,
    And behold, with the clouds of heaven

    One like a Son of Man was coming,
    And He came up to the Ancient of Days
    And was presented before Him.

    14 “And to Him was given dominion,
    Glory and a kingdom,
    That all the peoples, nations and men of every language
    Might serve Him."


    The "son of man" (Jesus) is brought before the Ancient of Days. (God) to receive his kingship.

    Do you really believe that spirit creatures have hair?

    Presenting this vision in terms that a human can comprehend, it is understandable that portraying longevity would mean white hair. Jesus never had white hair as a human because he was only 33 when he died and there is not a single reference to Jesus' physical appearance when he was on earth.

    Apart from that, reading on it says....
    "Moreover, his head and his hair were white as white wool, as snow, and his eyes were like a fiery flame, 15 and his feet were like fine copper when glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth a sharp, long, two-edged sword was protruding, and his countenance was like the sun when it shines at its brightest."

    So if you take the whole passage......the face of Jesus (his countenance) was like the sun at full strength.....and there is a large sword protruding from his mouth. Kind of paints a different picture to the one you are suggesting. o_O

    In the Bible, Angels are portrayed with wings but it doesn't mean that they need them to transport themselves. In Bible times, the only things that could fly had wings. You have to take into consideration the times and the understanding of the audience.

    According to Strongs....this is..."some metal like gold if not more precious"...."burnished copper, an alloy of copper (or gold) and silver having a brilliant lustre:—fine brass."
    So not black....glowing.....shining....bright in appearance.

    So, his feet were quite remarkable in appearance but his face wasn't that color.

    Neither. The one on the left looks mean and the one on the right looks gay. :p Jesus wasn't either....and he isn't human any longer. He is a mighty spirit being, a King of Kings who has no form visible to human eyes unless he materializes in human form....like he did after his resurrection.

    Angels too are spirit creatures with the ability to materialize....otherwise they could be all around us and we would never see them. (please read 2 Kings 6:8-17)

    It is impossible to say what a spirit being looks like because we have never seen one except what was portrayed in visions. The humans who had such visions often had great difficulty finding words in human language to describe what they saw.
     
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