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Jehovah the Jupiter

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by herushura, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. herushura

    herushura Active Member

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    Why do they Preach Jehovah, but not yehwah. From what i gathered Gods Name is called "EL" not yehwah.

    I believe that Jehovah is infact jupiter the Sky Father. First of all the Original rendering of Jupiter, without the Piter that means Father is "Jeove" or "yeove". i also know that "ah" like "us" was added to hebrew words. Yeshu = yeshua, so by adding yeove + ah would get me, Yehoveh.

    YHVH = "e-ah-va-ah." Similerity between Yhvh and "jeovah" the Sky Father.

    Jehovah is the hebrew form for Jupiter and Zeus.

    Did the Greek adopt "yhvh" from the hebrews, to created there own god, Zeus/jupiter. Copycat gods
     
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  2. angellous_evangellous

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    Not a good argument. Senseless actually.

    A cursory reading of even the wikipedia articles on these words would easily destoy every connection that you make between these words.
     
  3. angellous_evangellous

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    Well, Jehovah is an English transliteration. Not good to try and argue etemology based on English transliterations of ancient words.

    Jehovah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  4. herushura

    herushura Active Member

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    The Gods attributes have a greater Connection. Jeove and Jehovah/El are both called "Heavenly Father" Why is that.

    In fact the word Jeu=Heaven/Sky and Piter=Father, thus rendering Jupiter has "Heavenly Father".
     
  5. angellous_evangellous

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    As for the root of Jupiter:

     
  6. angellous_evangellous

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    All gods were called father. It's common. Like lord or king or warrior. It's nothing that can establish a connection.

    It's nothing more than saying they are related because they are called "god."
     
  7. herushura

    herushura Active Member

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    The Greeks adopted there gods from the Ancient Hebrew Gods. Lavitine Gods.

    Evidance of this is that the greeks was founded by the Phoenician.
     
  8. angellous_evangellous

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    You are hopelessly lost my friend.
     
  9. herushura

    herushura Active Member

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    nope, i listed and compared metopotamian gods and greeks gods. and from what i gathered the Gods of greek and roman were all readopted from the metopotamians.
     
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    Even the creation account is nearly the same
     
  11. angellous_evangellous

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    Out of the frying pan and into the fire....
     
  12. angellous_evangellous

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    Q: What happens when you crush a nut?

    A: You get a bunch of little nuts!
     
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  13. Elessar

    Elessar Well-Known Member

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    The common attempts to transliterate the name of G-d are formed by combining the letters of the Name, which are a yud (Y), two heys (H) and a vav (V), with the vowels of a common replacement, meaning "my lord", which has the vowel pattern sh'va (glottal stop) and kamatz (short a, as "ah"). Confusingly, "V" in Hebrew can represent the consonant sound "v" or "w" (outdated today), as well as the vowels "oh" or "ooh". In addition, Y can be a vowel, "ee", in addition to a consonant - though this is unrelated, as a vowel is not allowed to start a word or noun in Hebrew. The vowel pointings for the latter are used to remind Jews, when reading the Torah, to use the replacement instead of sinfully attempting to pronounce the Name.

    The original vowels of the Name are lost, but some Christians, when transliterating from the Tanakh, have mistakenly assumed that the vowels are in fact the correct, from which this flawed pronunciation is developed. By the tradition I follow, the Name is quite simple - it derives from the Hebrew form "to be", conjugated in the present-tense masculine singular form. The use of "to be" is thus forbidden for all but G-d, and thus the entire verb was dropped (modern Hebrew, even, does not have any sort of "to be" due to this).

    It is thus completely unrelated to the Latin god Jupiter.
     
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  14. Halcyon

    Halcyon Lord of the Badgers

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    The Romans had a habit of cross-referencing their deities with those of foreign cultures, for example they saw Hathor as being the Egyptian version of their Venus/Aphrodite.
    Is there any evidence that the Romans themselves equated Jupiter with the Jewish God?
     
  15. angellous_evangellous

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    Of course not.

    Quite the opposite in fact.
     
  16. Halcyon

    Halcyon Lord of the Badgers

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    There is evidence that the Romans attempted to distance their greatest God from the Jewish God?
     
  17. angellous_evangellous

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    O yes. The Romans for the most part considered Judaism to be quite foolish, especially depending on how exclusive and tolerant the Jews were (in other words, it varied geographically). There were converts from traditional religions to Judaism all over the Empire, but to do so would almost certainly mean expulsion from one's family and ridicule from friends.

    Romans were quite tolerant of other religions, but the two things that caused trouble for folks were exclusivism (if a Roman followed only Yahweh and no other gods) and social unrest (Jews often revolted against Roman rule for religious reasons). So yeah, Romans were not fans of Judaism. :rolleyes:

    Here's a few sources - there are many more - Ancient History Sourcebook: Roman Sources on the Jews and Judaism, 1 BCE-110CE

    EDIT: Jews were viewed with contempt for a few other reasons: strange dietary laws, keeping the Sabbath, and circumscision.
     
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  18. doppelganger

    doppelganger Through the Looking Glass

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    Yup. And considered in context, it may not be meant to even be read as a "name" for "God" (nor translated into the present tense, but that's a different discussion).
     
  19. angellous_evangellous

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    Also, the Romans probably would not have destroyed the Jewish temple if they considered it to be a temple to Jupiter. :biglaugh:
     
  20. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    Unless it is a string of matres lectionis.

    But it is only a tradition.
     
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