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It's time for "white folks" to call out white supremacy because Trump wont

SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
LOL. Did i like Obama, yes i did, except for the war he continued after Bush. He should have pulled out a lot sooner. I have never said I agree with illegal immigrants, What I say is that we can treat them better then America does.
I am not a Racist, But i do disagree with white Right-wing people that is true.
Do i feel comfortable with people from Asia, Middle east, or Africa Yes i do.
Ok, I dont have a problem with any color people I know.
They call me White, but boy, I have a descendancy of 350 years in Africa, and who knows how my DNA was made up over a history of 6000years in Eurasia?
perhaps I am the one to be called a colored!
:D
I dont know who wrote this, but hell it is funny!
“Dear White Fella When I am born I’m black
When I grow up I’m black
When I am sick I’m black
When I go out ina sun I’m black
When I git cold I’m black
When I git scared I’m black
And when I die I’m still black.
But you white fella
When you’re born you’re pink
When you grow up you’re white
When you git sick you’re green
When you go out ina sun you go red
When you git cold you go blue
When you git scared you’re yellow
And when you die you’re grey
And you got the cheek to call me coloured?”
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
The OP did not say that Trump's father was a KKK member, he said that he participated in a KKK riot. It appears that he was arrested and jailed for being in that riot but at his arraignment he was discharged No mention of formal charge being made. As this article tells us that he may have been an innocent bystander swept up by the police.

Was Donald Trump's Father Arrested at a KKK Rally?

So arrested yes, but it appears that he was not even charged.

Exactly, so why would the o.p say that since his father was arrested in a kkk riot and Trump didn't far from the tree therefore he is racist? You seem to leave out that little detail.

Donald Trump will not do it, because well, he is racist himself. His own father participated in a KKK riot so it's not surprising that he is not far from who his own father was.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Right because YOU believe what he said considering that Trump in the same media also said white nationalism is not a problem. Trump also said he didn't know who David Duke was. Trump who has a track record of lies and even has a lie counter on the many lies he says in the media Trump suddenly is honest now?

Fact is you asserted he would not disavow it.

He has, multiple times. You lose, case closed.

You've lied multiple times or spread lies others have told. Why should we believe anything you say?
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
The title of this thread expressly states that Trump refuses to call out and condemn white supremacy.

What exactly is going on in that video if that really is the case?

Whether or not you believe him is moot in that regard.

Oh of course we believe every word he utters. :rolleyes:
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
There's no such thing as "white" supremacy in the NBA.

Trump_and_Rodman_2009.jpg
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If america is so great, why is there so many homeless people? Shuld not Government do something for them?
 

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SA Huguenot

Well-Known Member
If america is so great, why is there so many homeless people? Shuld not Government do something for them?
https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2018/12/2018_12_20_Forbes_Homeless_People.jpg
Go check where these homeless people lives.
California, NY, Chicago,Baltimore and all the other Democratic ruled cities and states.
Why?
Go ask Pelosi and Cummins, they brought Illigal Immigrants to their cities, gave them jobs, in exchange for votes, and the American citizens had bonds and accounts to pay, when Obama destroyed the American industry telling the Americans that the steel industry will never come back to the USA.
He mocked Trump when Trump told the world that he will open the steel factories again, saying Trump must have a magic wand!

Well, If you did not keep Trump away from his work with this Russia collusion hoax, he would have fixed the homeless situation, but in the meantime Trump created 6 million jobs Obama said will never come back.
Who's your DADDY!!!!
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Go check where these homeless people lives.
California, NY, Chicago,Baltimore and all the other Democratic ruled cities and states.
Why?
Go ask Pelosi and Cummins, they brought Illigal Immigrants to their cities, gave them jobs, in exchange for votes, and the American citizens had bonds and accounts to pay, when Obama destroyed the American industry telling the Americans that the steel industry will never come back to the USA.
He mocked Trump when Trump told the world that he will open the steel factories again, saying Trump must have a magic wand!

Well, If you did not keep Trump away from his work with this Russia collusion hoax, he would have fixed the homeless situation, but in the meantime Trump created 6 million jobs Obama said will never come back.
Who's your DADDY!!!!
What about all the AMERICAN veterans who have nothing to get back to other the streets? Well yes Not just Trump's fault, of course, it was Bush who started the bloody war that destroys thousand of military lives. Those are not immigrants, right? You see the problem started long before immigrants become a probem for America, the problem started when Bush went crazy in 2001
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Isn't it the white Democrat leftists who feel so superior to everyone, including minorities and women, that they get to define PC and racism, for everyone by decree? Who made you God? You can tell a bigoted tree by the self important fruit it bears.

Racism and sexism is not just about calling names, but also about treating others like they are inferior and need propping up. The Knight saves the damsel in distress, because he feels she is weak and cannot save herself. This is supremacy disguised as concern. The knight expects to get a reward in the end; votes or sex. he is not doing it to give the damsel a day off.

Every election season the Democrats, which was the party of slavery, Jim Crow, KKK and Segregation, plays the race card, as though they are innocent and free from guilt. They never formally apologized to the blacks for nearly two centuries of atrocities. Yet they feel a sense of self proclaimed superiority judging others and even speak for the blacks, as though the still think they own them. They have no sense of morality or shame. Should the members of the Democrat party pay reparations for all their evils to the blacks since 1825? They owe the most, since they did the worse by far.

If you look at the map of Baltimore; district of Rep. Elijah Cummings, it was gerrymandered, by the Democrats, into two zones separated by a narrow corridor; see below. One zone is very well off and is considered one of the nicest places to live in the US. The other zone is rat infested and one of the most violent places to live. This is modern day Democrat segregation, since the blacks ended up with the rat zone. These same people stand in judgment of others, to hide their scam. Billions of dollars have been pumped into that district; near Baltimore, yet the Democrats only made one good half for the white Democrat elitists. The same is true in NY, San Francisco, LA, Chicago, etc., all run by the Democrats.

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Are you sure about that? Why would they need to gerrymander his district? The surrounding Democratic districts have similar weird shapes. Perhaps it represents the geography of Maryland and its voters:

Maryland's congressional districts - Wikipedia

Weird shape alone is not evidence of gerrymandering.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Exactly, so why would the o.p say that since his father was arrested in a kkk riot and Trump didn't far from the tree therefore he is racist?

You seem to leave out that little detail.

But he was arrested at that riot. That was shown to be the case. He was discharged at arraignment. That meant when he was put before the judge no charges were filed. It does not mean that he was innocent or guilty. It usually means that there was not enough evidence to prosecute. So Trump senior was at a riot. He was arrested. He may have been an innocent bystander or her may have been an active participant. In either case there was not enough evidence to prosecute him and that used to happen all of the time at riots. Now with video everywhere that is much rarer. I disagree that the sins of the father are the sins of the son. I was merely correcting your error. It was not "fake news". It would have been "fake news" if anyone claimed that he was convicted. But I did not see anyone do that.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Donald Trump will not do it, because well, he is racist himself. His own father participated in a KKK riot so it's not surprising that he is not far from who his own father was. I am 37 years old and I have spent almost half of my life either defending or explaining what another black man or men who are not related to me reasons why they act or why this is why such and such exist in the black community.

Yet, I'm going to need my fellow Caucasian Americans to call out racism amongst some in their community. I personally feel the killer who recently took the lives of 20 or so people should have awaken the moderates among the Caucasian community. I personally feel they should be mad. Trump's half assed apology sheds no light on his own rhetoric, nor does it address the inflammatory speech that emboldens the extreme among his base. A member here once told me that it's difficult for people to see their own reflection in the mirror but I think it's time people need to face the truth. The following video really sums up the issue at hand:
Man, now I know how the Muslims feel when Westerners say "Why won't the sane rational Muslims condemn radical Islamic terrorism?". The fact of the matter is, we all have been condemning white supremacy for decades now. Every white person I know, from the most liberal far-left progressive to the most diehard Trump-supporting Republican, condemns white supremacy and acts of white terror. The fact is that the actual number of white supremacists and white nationalists is very low. Probably not higher than the tens of thousands nationwide.

I don't see how me wanting the Caucasian community to be angry at something that not only affects that community but affects me as well.
We are. You just don't see it. But contrary to what you might think, there isn't a club of white nationalists or white supremacists right down the road from our houses for us to go protest in front of. These people are few and far between, and never once have I ever met one of these types in person. And I get around town a lot.

I don't believe what Trump says and like any politician, he is going to give a half *** speech that really invokes no emotion nor sincerity. Sure, you being a part of his base will believe him and sop it up, but there is nothing sincere about Trump.
So you think that every single word coming out of his lips is a lie? Or is it that anytime he says something you don't agree with or that you think is dangerous, Trump is speaking the truth, and any time he says something good, you think it's a lie? What kind of life is that where you automatically assume the worst of people around you and always think they're waiting with a knife behind their back to slit your throat when you're not looking?

Well you are free to not participate. I'm not here for your amusement. It's a discussion. It's calling out the so-called white moderates who are complacent with the racism going on in this country. MLK Jr. who so many conservatives love to quote on racial issues said the following:

"I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice [...]"
White moderates of the 50's are far different from white moderates of the 21st century. We all take for granted the fact that all people should be treated equal, regardless of their skin color. White moderates of course agree that white supremacy and white terror are dangerous and worthy of condemnation. Every sane human does, whether they're Republican or Democrat. White conservatives also think that white supremacy and white terror are despicable.

I am a black racist that hates white people. Oh because I'm calling out the ones who are complacent. Funny, nobody has this much emotion when white folks ask other black people to explain things going on in the community. I've lived my life explaining what another black person does or why this community is impoverished yet when myself do it, its all of a sudden the end of the world "oh you racist you!" hmmm
So if you think it's wrong when white people do it, why is it okay when you do it? The real solution isn't to go tit-for-tat, it's to say "Hey, it's unfair of you to lump all black people into the same category. I don't do it to you, so please don't do it to me or anyone else."

Something is off here.
Yes, agreed. Though I think our opinions of what that "something" is will differ greatly.

I'm saying what Martin Luther King said and its making you feel uncomfortable:

"I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice [...]."

This Quote By Martin Luther King Jr. On White Moderates Is Striking A Chord Today
Gotta love quotes being used in a completely different cultural and societal context from when and where they were originally used.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Man, now I know how the Muslims feel when Westerners say "Why won't the sane rational Muslims condemn radical Islamic terrorism?".
I hate the common critical question....
"Why don't good <those people> condemn violence by <those people>!"

It means that they offer tacit approval for the carnage, when that isn't the case.
Why doesn't the OP decry black folk killing each other?
Obviously, he opposes all those shootings.
But such criticism would imply that he's OK with it, & allows for no defense.
 
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Stanyon

WWMRD?
But he was arrested at that riot. That was shown to be the case. He was discharged at arraignment. That meant when he was put before the judge no charges were filed. It does not mean that he was innocent or guilty. It usually means that there was not enough evidence to prosecute. So Trump senior was at a riot. He was arrested. He may have been an innocent bystander or her may have been an active participant. In either case there was not enough evidence to prosecute him and that used to happen all of the time at riots. Now with video everywhere that is much rarer. I disagree that the sins of the father are the sins of the son. I was merely correcting your error. It was not "fake news". It would have been "fake news" if anyone claimed that he was convicted. But I did not see anyone do that.

You didn't answer the question as expected, if he was not guilty nor in the KKK why did the OP contain this and what was intimated within the context and overall content of the OP?
Donald Trump will not do it, because well, he is racist himself. His own father participated in a KKK riot so it's not surprising that he is not far from who his own father was.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You didn't answer the question as expected, if he was not guilty nor in the KKK why did the OP contain this and what was intimated within the context and overall content of the OP?
He was not legally guilty, he may have been part of the demonstration. . And perhaps he should not have included it. But in all reality how many "innocent" people are arrested at demonstrations? Usually innocent people recognize trouble when they see it. He was not proven to be guilty but it does look highly suspicious. But once again you made the wrong argument.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Donald Trump will not do it, because well, he is racist himself. His own father participated in a KKK riot so it's not surprising that he is not far from who his own father was. I am 37 years old and I have spent almost half of my life either defending or explaining what another black man or men who are not related to me reasons why they act or why this is why such and such exist in the black community.

Yet, I'm going to need my fellow Caucasian Americans to call out racism amongst some in their community. I personally feel the killer who recently took the lives of 20 or so people should have awaken the moderates among the Caucasian community. I personally feel they should be mad. Trump's half assed apology sheds no light on his own rhetoric, nor does it address the inflammatory speech that emboldens the extreme among his base. A member here once told me that it's difficult for people to see their own reflection in the mirror but I think it's time people need to face the truth. The following video really sums up the issue at hand:


Why only white folk to call out white supremacy?

List of gangs in the United States

African-American -43

Asian -29

Caucasian racialist/White Supremacist -30

Eastern European -13

Hispanic -65

Irish-American -13

Italian-American -54

Jewish -7

North American -4

Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs -32

Pacific Islander -3

South Asian & Middle Eastern -1

Southeast Asian -6

West Asian -4

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