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Its finally happend.. CRISPR gene editing in humans.

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Yes, he needs to be taken in and studied for beneficial medical research.

It's just so unfair, a normal bodied person like me had to vigorously work out and take steroids to get my body in shape like his; while he effortlessly can naturally have great strength and physique.

Do not forget is skeletal structure as no up to the job. He is in for a very difficult future and probably a painful one.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Personally i do not understad why humans should tamper with DNA, we are born the way we are for a reason

What reason would there be for somebody having to suffer from a genetic disorder if this agonizing or crippling disease could be prevented or cured by genome editing?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I do not say other have to see it like i do but as a buddhist i see all form of suffering as karma,
I am my self born with spina bifida and hydrosephalus but i dont complain. but suffer yes from time to time i do.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Right. It's just vanity. The aim should be to be to have a healthy body and steroid abuse destroys your health. They end up having heart attacks and it causes the testicles to atrophy, among other things.

Winstrol (anabolic steroids) is a synthetic steroid, similar to testosterone, used in the treatment of hereditary angioedema, which causes episodes of swelling of the face, extremities, genitals, bowel wall, and throat.

There are several benefits to taking this particular type of anabolic steriod, winstrol.

Benefit #1- Doesn’t Convert into Estrogen
Benefit #2 – Provides Quality Muscle Growth
Benefit #3 – Won’t Cause Water Retention
Benefit #4 – Offers a Lean Appearance Without Bulk
Benefit #5 – Improves Overall Endurance
Benefit #6 – Increases Speed, Agility, and Power
Benefit #7 – Allows Steroid Stacking
Benefit # 8 – Few Winstrol Side Effects
Benefit #9 – High Bioavailability, which means it safely passes through the liver


Stanozolol - Wikipedia

Top 10 Winstrol Benefits in Bodybuilding
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Winstrol (anabolic steroids) is a synthetic steroid, similar to testosterone, used in the treatment of hereditary angioedema, which causes episodes of swelling of the face, extremities, genitals, bowel wall, and throat.

There are several benefits to taking this particular type of anabolic steriod, winstrol.

Benefit #1- Doesn’t Convert into Estrogen
Benefit #2 – Provides Quality Muscle Growth
Benefit #3 – Won’t Cause Water Retention
Benefit #4 – Offers a Lean Appearance Without Bulk
Benefit #5 – Improves Overall Endurance
Benefit #6 – Increases Speed, Agility, and Power
Benefit #7 – Allows Steroid Stacking
Benefit # 8 – Few Winstrol Side Effects
Benefit #9 – High Bioavailability, which means it safely passes through the liver


Stanozolol - Wikipedia

Top 10 Winstrol Benefits in Bodybuilding
Again, do you have a point?
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
And which people would those be?
  • Anybody with the following genetic defects:
  • Achromatopsia (inability to see color)
  • Adrenal Hypoplasia Congenita (reduction in adrenal gland function)
  • Adrenoleukodystrophy (progressive brain damage)
  • Aicardi Syndrome (partial or complete absence of a key structure in brain)
  • Albinism/Hypopigmentation (no melanin pigment in eyes, skin and hair)
  • Alexander Disease (neurodegenerative disease)
  • Alpers' Disease (degenerative disease of the central nervous system)
  • Alpha-1 Antitrypsin Deficiency (decreased A1AT activity in blood & lungs)
  • Alzheimer's (degenerative disease starting with memory loss)
  • Amblyopia (poor or indistinct vision)
  • Angelman Syndrome (intellectual and developmental delay, seizures)
  • Anencephaly (absence of a major portion of the brain, skull, and scalp)
  • Aniridia (underdevelopment of the eye's iris)
  • Anophthalmia (congenital absence of one or both eyes)
  • Ataxia Telangiectasia (immunodeficiency disorder)
  • Autism (brain development disorder)
  • Bardet-Biedl Syndrome (obesity, pigmentary retinopathy, polydactyly, mental retardation, hypogonadism, and renal failure)
  • Barth Syndrome (metabolism distortion, delayed motor skills, stamina deficiency, hypotonia, chronic fatigue, delayed growth)
  • Batten Disease (fatal, autosomal recessive neurodegenerative disorder)
  • Best's Disease (progressive vision loss)
  • Bipolar Disorder (a category of mood disorders)
  • Bloom Syndrome (breaks and rearrangements in the chromosomes)
  • Branchio-Oto-Renal (BOR) Syndrome (autosomal disorder of kidneys, ears, and neck)
  • Canavan Syndrome (progressive damage to nerve cells in the brain)
  • Carnitine Deficiencies (metabolic disorders)
  • Cerebral Palsy (physical disability in human development)
  • Charcot-Marie-Tooth Disease (loss of muscle tissue and touch sensation)
  • Cleft Lip/Cleft Palate (abnormal facial development during gestation)
  • Coffin Lowry Syndrome (mental retardation and delayed development)
  • Coloboma (hole in one of the structures of the eye)
  • Color Blindness
  • Congenital Heart Defects
  • Congenital Hip Dysplasia (Dislocation)
  • Connective Tissue Disorders
  • Cooley's Anemia/ Thalassemia (formation of abnormal haemoglobin molecules)
  • Corneal Dystrophy (non-inflammatory, bilateral opacity of cornea)
  • Cornelia de Lange Syndrome (severe developmental anomalies)
  • Cystic Fibrosis (progressive disability due to multisystem failure)
  • Cystinosis (autosomal recessive disorder of the renal tubules)
  • Developmental Disabilities
  • Diabetes
  • Down Syndrome (impairment of cognitive ability, physical growth & facial appearance)
  • Duane Syndrome (inability of the eye to turn out)
  • Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (defect in collagen synthesis)
  • Epidermolysis Bullosa (extremely fragile skin & recurrent blister formation)
  • Familial Dysautonomia (disorder of the autonomic nervous system)
  • Familial Mediterranean Fever (inflammatory disorder)
  • Fanconi Anemia (short stature, skeletal anomalies, bone marrow failure)
  • Fibrodysplasia Ossificans Progressiva (disease of the connective tissue)
  • Fragile X Syndrome (X-linked mental retardation)
  • G6PD (Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase) Deficiency Anemia
  • Galactosemia (inefficient metabolism of the sugar galactose0
  • Gaucher Disease (deficiency of the enzyme glucocerebrosidase)
  • Gilbert's Syndrome (high levels of unconjugated bilirubin in bloodstream)
  • Glaucoma (diseases of the optic nerve)
  • Hemochromatosis (excessive absorption of dietary iron)
  • Hemoglobin C Disease (abnormal hemoglobin)
  • Hemophilia/Bleeding Disorders (inefficient control over blood clotting or coagulation)
  • Hirschsprung's Disease (enlargement of the colon)
  • Homocystinuria (disorder of the metabolism of the amino acid methionine)
  • Huntington's Disease (abnormal body movements)
  • Hurler Syndrome (deficiency of alpha-L iduronidase)
  • Klinefelter Syndrome (small testicles and reduced fertility)
  • Krabbe Disease (fatal degenerative disorder of nervous system)
  • Leber Congenital Amaurosis (loss of vision)
  • Leukodystrophies (progressive degeneration of the white matter of brain)
  • Long Q-T Syndrome (heart problem)
  • Macular Degeneration (loss of central vision)
  • Marfan Syndrome (disorder of the connective tissue)
  • Marshall-Smith Syndrome (unusual accelerated skeletal maturation)
  • McCune-Albright Syndrome (disorder of bones, hormones & skin pigmentation)
  • Menkes Disease (disorder that affects copper levels in the body)
  • Metabolic Disorders
  • Mitochondrial Disease
  • Mucolipidoses
  • Mucopolysaccharide Disorders
  • Muscular Dystrophy (progressive muscle weakness)
  • Neonatal Onset Multisystem Inflammatory Disease (uncontrolled inflammation in multiple parts of the body)
  • Neurofibromatosis (grow of tumors in nerve cells - Schwann cells)
  • Niemann-Pick Disease (disorder affecting lipid metabolism)
  • Noonan Syndrome (heart malformation, short stature, learning problems)
  • Optic Atrophy (loss of some or most of the fibers of the optic nerve)
  • Osteogenesis Imperfecta (no protein - collagen, or the ability to make it)
  • Peutz-Jeghers Syndrome (benign hamartomatous polyps in gastrointestinal tract)
  • Phenylketonuria (PKU) (deficiency in enzyme phenylalanine hydroxylase)
  • Polycystic Kidney Disease (multiple cysts in both kidneys)
  • Pseudoxanthoma Elasticum (fragmentation and mineralization of elastic fibers in tissues)
  • Progeria (accelerated aging)
  • Ptosis (drooping upper eyelid or breasts)
  • Rentinitis Pigmentosa
  • Scheie Syndrome (absence or malfunctioning of lysosomal enzymes)
  • Schizophrenia (impairments in the perception or expression of reality)
  • Severe Combined Immunodeficiency (SCID) (crippling of adaptive immune system)
  • Sickle Cell Anemia (abnormal, rigid, sickle shape of red blood cells)
  • Skeletal Dysplasias (abnormal bone and cartilage development)
  • Smith-Magenis Syndrome (developmental disorder)
  • Spherocytosis (production of bi-concave disk shaped red blood cells)
  • Spina Bifida (incompletely formed spinal cord)
  • Spinocerebellar Ataxia (progressive in-coordination of gait)
  • Stargardt Disease (Macular Degeneration) (progressive vision loss)
  • Stickler Syndrome (disorders affecting connective tissue, mainly collagen)
  • Tay-Sachs Disease (usually affects nervous tissue of the brain)
  • Treacher Collins Syndrome (craniofacial deformities)
  • Tuberous Sclerosis (causes benign tumors in various body parts)
  • Turner's Syndrome (only one X chromosome in each cell of a female)
  • Urea Cycle Disorder (deficiency of one of the enzymes in the urea cycle causing irreversible brain damage and/or death)
  • Usher's Syndrome (deafness and a gradual vision loss)
  • Velocardiofacial Syndrome (deletion of a small piece of chromosome 22)
  • von Hippel-Lindau Disease (abnormal growth of tumors in body parts)
  • Werner Syndrome (premature aging)
  • Williams Syndrome ("elfin" facial appearance, with a low nasal bridge)
  • Xeroderma Pigmentosum (deficient ability to repair damage caused by ultraviolet (UV) light)
  • XXX Syndrome (an extra X chromosome in each cell of a female)
  • XYY Syndrome (an extra Y chromosome in each cell of a male)

Read more at Genetic Diseases - List of Genetic Diseases, List of Genetic Disorders
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
So in other words... you think a fair number of people in the world are "degenerates" and "mutants." Nice.
Yeah, there's certainly much more compassionate ways of describing them, while still wanting a cure. I and some of my loved ones suffer from mental illness, but if you called me or them a "degenerate" or "sickly mutant" just for that, you might get punched in the mouth. These things require sensitivity. It's not like these things are chosen.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Yeah, there's certainly much more compassionate ways of describing them, while still wanting a cure. I and some of my loved ones suffer from mental illness, but if you called me or them a "degenerate" or "sickly mutant" just for that, you might get punched in the mouth. These things require sensitivity. It's not like these things are chosen.

My brother has a mild form of autism, but I still care and love him. Of course, I'd never call him a degenerate or sickly mutant. Gene editing can't cure him from always being so particular and such a misfit, but it might prevent many genetic deficiencies, diseases, disorders or syndromes from occurring in future generations of people.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
My brother has a mild form of autism, but I still care and love him. Of course, I'd never call him a degenerate or sickly mutant. Gene editing can't cure him from always being so particular and such a misfit, but it might prevent many genetic deficiencies, diseases, disorders or syndromes from occurring in future generations of people.
That's fine for wishing that things can be cured in the future. I do, too. I would advise that you choose your words more carefully. "Degenerate" implies moral failure and it's inappropriate to call someone that when they're simply ill.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
I'd actually be interested in seeing a report about your perfect genes.

Unfortunately, there's no such thing as "perfect" DNA. I used to have a nearly perfectly shaped bode, but now I'm well past my prime....:)
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
The world is already overpopulated enough... and we keep trying to make it so people don't die... yeah, that's going to end well.
We counter the quest for immortality by being murderous jerkwads.

but if you called me or them a "degenerate" or "sickly mutant" just for that, you might get punched in the mouth
I'm an X-Men fan. Calling me a "mutant" wouldn't be an insult. :)
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
The world is already overpopulated enough... and we keep trying to make it so people don't die... yeah, that's going to end well.
You raise an excellent point about the elephant in the room.

It puts me in the rather awkward position of being pro universal, inclusive healthcare anfd research on one hand, while simultaneously being for population stasis/reduction on the other. I'm also pro animal rights, while also being a meat lover.

Humans, right?
 
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