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logician said:The book of revelation was obviously written by a madman.
yes ,verita said:Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein:for the time is at hand.
may said:My friend, I found this lesson on thepreachersfiles.com/end_times/000987.htmBaerly said:So your saying that this particular part of the book of Revelation was wrote to first century christians to tell them in 1914 wars were going to start. That would not give the first century christains much hope at the time they were actually dying for the faith would it.
Doesn't the first chapter of the book of Revelation say that these things must SHORTLY come to pass (Rev. 1:1). Not some 2000 years later. - in love Baerly[/quotMake no mistake about it , the book of revelation is for our day , in fact the word revelation means an UNCOVERING OR REVEALING.
world events continue to unfold in fulfillment of Bible prophecy, we are now in the Lords day spoken of in revelation.
Revelation adds its testimony to many other Bible prophecies, showing that Jehovah God purposes to create new heavens and a new earth. (Isaiah 65:17; 66:22; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:1-5) Primarily, its message is addressed to anointed Christians, whom Jesus has bought with his blood to become corulers with him in the new heavens. (Revelation 5:9, 10) Nevertheless, this good news will also fortify the faith of those millions who look forward to everlasting life under Christs Kingdom. Are you one of these? Then Revelation will strengthen your hope of living in Paradise, as part of the new earth, with the enjoyment of an abundance of peace, vibrant health, and an overflow of Gods provisions that will never end. (Psalm 37:11, 29, 34; 72:1, 7, 8, 16) If you want to survive into that new world, it is urgent, yes, mandatory, that you pay attention to Revelations graphic description of the epoch-making climax now at hand.Zephaniah 2:3; John 13:17.
It is urgent that we observe the words of the prophecy, "for the appointed time is near." The appointed time for what? For the fulfillment of the prophecies of Revelation, including Gods judgments. The time is near for God and Jesus Christ to execute final judgment on Satans world system. When Jesus was here on earth, he stated that only his Father knew "that day or the hour." Looking ahead to the troubles that have multiplied on earth from World War I onward, Jesus also said: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen." So the appointed time for executing Gods decision must be drawing perilously close. (Mark 13:8, 30-32) As Habakkuk 2:3 states: "The vision is yet for the appointed time, and it keeps panting on to the end, and it will not tell a lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late." Our salvation through the great tribulation depends on our observing Gods prophetic Word.Matthew 24:20-22.
I have no doubt this guy can say it much better than I. Please take notice of what this says, it is only a portion of the lesson.
Much rapture material is filled with scripture references that appear, at first, to back up the teaching of the rapture. A closer look at those passages finds that they are quoted out of context or their meaning is twisted. For example, much is made of Matthew 24 prophecies about tribulation (Matthew 24:21) and one taken and another being left (Matthew 24:40-41). Yet, if one reads the first three verses in this chapter, it becomes apparent that Jesus is talking about the destruction of the Temple. The most puzzling part of Matthew 24 is verse 15 and its reference to "the Abomination of Desolation." What is that? Luke 21 contains the parallel passage to Matthew 24 and reveals that the Abomination of Desolation is Roman armies: "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near" (Luke 21:20). Note who is to see this. You and I? No, Jesus says when "you" see it clearly meaning the people to whom He was then talking. The admonitions and warnings contained in Matthew 24 are for the people of Jesus' time. To take the prophecy of Jerusalem's destruction, fulfilled in AD 70, and twist it into something for today is a gross misuse of scripture. Notice that Jesus says that what He speaks of in Matthew 24 will take place within the lifetime of those who heard Him speak the prophecy: "Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place" (Matthew 24:34). If Jesus is talking about the rapture in Matthew 24, then He lied for it did not happen in the first century! - in love Baerly
may said:so in these last days Jesus said that many things would be happening on the earth as a composite sign , and one of those things would be that the GOODNEWS OF THE KINGDOM will be preached in all the nations . matthew 24;14 and this goodnews will be for a witness to the nations,then the end will come. (not the end of the world) but the end of manmade rulership Daniel 2;44 yes its all happening in this time of the end.
yes, that is quite right it was preached in all the known world at that time , and the last thing that Jesus said to his disiples before he went back to heaven , was this in matthew 28;19-20Baerly said:My bible says that the gospel was preached to all the world in the first century
(Col.1:6,23). The bible also says the gospel was preached to all the nations in
(Rom. 16:26). in love Baerly
maybe you were not hearing and seeinggnostic said:The prophecies must have happened when I blinked, because I had missed it all...again.
true christianity is alive and active False christianity is in darkness and on its way out for good.logician said:Christianity has to be running scared, since it has been debunked from a logical viewpoint.
Like many religions, the fundamentalists take over when the religion is threatened.
yes that is true ,but there must be only one that is true , they cant all be true , when they all say something differentlogician said:That is "true Christianity", there are many, many denominations and variants of it.
Perhaps God is so great, that there are multiple truths in Him? Maybe God isn't limited to one persons view of Truth.may said:yes that is true ,but there must be only one that is true , they cant all be true , when they all say something different
May said:maybe you were not hearing and seeing
i like to see it from the bibles point of view.Super Universe said:They don't all say something different you just wish to see it that way.
LOL its amazing how we can see clearer and hear better if we take off the blinkers and unstop the ears.gnostic said:Then I would need to have my eyesight re-tested and a new pair of glasses. I also would need to get a pair of hearing aids.
Do you think I have time to get them all done, before the prophesised sky fall on my heads? :bonk:
MaddLlama said:Funny, everyone's been talking about the "end times" for so long, I wonder if it will ever actually happen.
gnostic said:The prophecies must have happened when I blinked, because I had missed it all...again.
gnostic said:Then I would need to have my eyesight re-tested and a new pair of glasses. I also would need to get a pair of hearing aids.
Do you think I have time to get them all done, before the prophesised sky fall on my heads? :bonk: