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Featured It is time to revise the Methodology of Science

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by questfortruth, Nov 15, 2018.

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  1. Yes, the paper has truth in it.

  2. No, I do not like even truth.

  3. No!!!

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  1. questfortruth

    questfortruth Active Member

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    Let us assume, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived 600 years before the Mitochondrial
    Eve was born. But the female ancestor of that Eve lived also 600 years before
    the Mitochondrial Eve. Do you follow, or it is way too complicated? According to Wikipedia, there is non-zero probability, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived same time as Mitochondrial Eve. The Mitochondrial Eve has grand-grand-grand-mother called "original Eve''. Enough grand, that this grand-grand-grand-Eve lived the same time with Y-Chromosomal Adam. Do you copy that?

    If the Y-Chromosomal Adam lived centuries before the Mitochondrial Eve,
    then the future Eve was in the genus of those who lived with Adam.
    Therefore, one can say that Adam lived at the same time as Eve. This is
    argued in this paper. In addition, I use the opportunity for a discourse
    about the methodology of science, proposing a change of methodology.
    Well, how could we all have gone in the wrong direction? The wrong direction
    started from Ancient Greece, when the methodology of mistrust began to form.
    This direction was developed by the Christians: Popper, Occam, Darwin were
    Christians. Is sounds like the Church Schism. Today, Dr.Kaku teaches that
    reality does not exist and that the Science got it all wrong:



     

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  2. Sunstone

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    Please tell me when you want this thread moved to the Jokes section.
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    Gibberish.
     
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  4. questfortruth

    questfortruth Active Member

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    I AM SORRY. FORGIVE me.
     
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    1. Yes, the paper has truth in it.
    2. No, I do not like even truth.
    Those are really the only vote choices. Grief, even the GOP couldn't rig it that badly.
     
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  6. questfortruth

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    No, because the English and Style was checked by Dr. Groote.
     
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    YmirGF Bodhisattva

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    Smells more like codswallop to me :)

    Talk about leading the witness, eh?
     
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    I AM SORRRRY. PLEASE FORGIVE me. The poll is changed.
     
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    YmirGF Bodhisattva

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    Is it me or does the OP not make any sense?
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    Still doesn't make any sense. You didn't even explain your proposal, and no, just because two organisms are members of the same genus,if they live centuries apart, you can't really say they are contemporary.
     
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    I'm not even sure it was actually trying to make sense. I took it as an exercise in "theater of the absurd".
     
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    Let us assume, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived 600 years before the Mitochondrial Eve was born. But the female ancestor of that Eve lived also 600 years before the Mitochondrial Eve. Do you follow, or it is way too complicated?
     
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    Any sentence with the word 'TRUTH' in it is open to interpretation.
    What is true to Trump, is true to very few others.
     
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    Absolute Truth is true not to Trump alone, but to God.
     
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    I follow. But they were much further apart than 600 years, and your trying to avoid the inconvenient fact that they weren't contemporary.

    Queen Elizabeth the 1st lived 400 years before us. She was the same genus. Try telling people she lived at the same time as you they'd put you away.
     
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    questfortruth Active Member

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    According to Wikipedia, there is non-zero probability, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived same time as Mitochondrial Eve. The Mitochondrial Eve has grand-grand-grand-grand-mother. Enough grand, that this grand-grand-grand-grand-mother lived the same time with Y-Chromosomal Adam. Do you copy that?
     
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    Having seen the ridiculous lengths that people will go to when they do not agree, none of this is surprising. It's been a source of frustration to see both religious and scientific types go at it hammer and tong about issues that neither side can conclusively prove. It seems clear that humanity will likely have to evolve another two steps before they will be able to think about existence from both a theological and scientific view at once and we may not survive that long. I'm disappointed.
     
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    I didn't vote because of the limited options. No, if I were an editor and received this paper submitted for publication, I would not even send it to a referee. I would consider it to be only worthy of the trash can, or, perhaps, to put up on the wall for jokes and snide commentary.

    Why? Because it is trivial and not an insight missed by anyone doing research in the field. It is also largely irrelevant to anything else. Whether one of Mito Eve's great-gandmothers many times removed is a contemporary of Y-Adam isn't particularly relevant to anything: they almost certainly didn't know each other.

    As for the methodology of science: it is precisely because of stuff along this line that we have peer review to eliminate the crud.
     
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    A wishfull thinking. Please prove, that humans did know, that Y-Chromosomal Adam lived the same time with the Original Eve. You are simply nihilating my results, totally unjust way.
     
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