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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Tony Bristow-Stagg, Jan 7, 2021.

  1. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    Life, It is really just pure logic.

    Logically creation is founded in pure Intelligence, because lack of intelligence does not create.

    Logically we would be guided, if there is a creative Intelligence that wants to guide us.

    Logically that guidance would be made known unto us and Logically the guidance would offer what that intelligence wants us to know.

    Logically we would have been given the abilities to find that guidance and see if it offers the answers.

    Logically the answers were given before we make any mistakes.

    Logically that Pure Intelligence is what history has shown us to be God and the solutions can be found in what we know are Messages from God.

    Logically, we can find the answers.

    So think of an Issue the world now faces. Are we able to find a solution given by a source of pure intelligence?

    Give it a go, think of an issue, is there an answer already given?

    Regards Tony
     
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  2. SalixIncendium

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    Proselytizing seems to be an issue the world faces. How do you think “Pure Intelligence” would answer or resolve that?
     
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  3. A Vestigial Mote

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    This makes absolutely no sense.

    Is there "intelligence" at work in the "creation" of a stalagmite or stalactite within a cave? If not, then how are these things "created?"

    And how would one know if one's actions were "guided" by an un-seen intelligence? How might one know that? When any of us take a particular action, is it possible for you to demonstrate the external intelligence that is causing us to take that particular action? If you cannot demonstrate this, then why should I believe you?

    Why is this a logical conclusion? You have to first assume that there is an intelligence guiding you, but that it wants you to know that it is, given the current situation within which you cannot demonstrate this intelligence you speak of, is something you would also just have to assume. As far as I can tell, if this intelligence exists, it most certainly does not want me to know that it does so, because all it supposedly provides is a bunch of insufficient words and baseless assertions from other people. And we all know it makes absolutely no sense to take anyone's word for something without evidence. (See what I did there in that last (red) sentence? I started talking LIKE YOU! Didn't I sound like a doofus?)

    I don't even understand at all how this supposedly follows the rest.

    I'm still way back before we even have an established "intelligence" to examine. I don't know how you get there. I'm not willing to accept that premise without further production of evidence. In other words: I do not yet care about these baseless assertions of yours. In good conscience, I find myself simply unable to care.

    Alright... my issue is time travel. I'd like to be able to go back in time to take advantage of some of the knowledge I have gained since that prior time. Has the answer already been given? And while we're at it... I'd like to be able to throw energy waves from my palms. It's an issue I face every day - not being able to do this. I mean... I see Ryu and Ken do it on Street-Fighter all the time, but there's got to be something more than just the motions going into it, because I just can't seem to muster the fireball. Any suggestions forthcoming from this "intelligence" of yours? Too selfish of me? Not sincere enough in my request? Well... what's the excuse?
     
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  4. Jayhawker Soule

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    Nonsense.
     
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    I'm not following.

    If the proposition is that life is pure logic, I think it would help to define for us how you are understanding "life" as well as how you are understanding "logic." From there, you'll want to elaborate on what you mean by "pure intelligence" as well. From my understanding of what these terms mean, your argumentation does not logically follow, which is a little ironic.
     
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  6. JoshuaTree

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    What if the pure intelligence was in absolute control?
     
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  7. A Vestigial Mote

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    What if unicorns with bananas for horns were purple?
     
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    Look round you, watch some TV news.....
    Proselytizing seems not to be among the serious issues the world faces.
     
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    JoshuaTree Flowers are red?

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    Never fails lol.
     
  10. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    Logically by redefining what it is Prolteszing and to ban what is.

    Regards Tony
     
  11. A Vestigial Mote

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    I dislike this line of thinking extremely.

    Once when I raised some concerns over factory farming as a reply to something related on Facebook, a friend of mine decided to start up a debate about it by asking me "What about all the homeless vets?" As if we needed to take care of all the homeless vets before we could focus any attention or make any moves on any other items we felt were problems. Not only that, but why were homeless vets chosen? Why don't the poor girls kidnapped and forced into the sex trade get a place in line ahead of the homeless vets? I'm sure if we surveyed some homeless vets, they'd likely state that they would happily stay homeless a little while longer if it meant getting some of those poor girls out of the sex trade.

    Ultimately... the point is, at any time, anything that is at issue can remain at issue. Sure, you, personally, can have "bigger fish to fry," but I am not so sure you get to dictate what everyone else considers important at any given moment.
     
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  12. A Vestigial Mote

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    You didn't answer my question! Never fails. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!1!!111!1!1!!!!!!
     
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    Sometimes the best response to a stupid argument is another one that is equally stupid. Hopefully the flaws in the second argument allows others to see the flaws in the first.
     
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  14. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    The Key is to tackle one issue at a time, so let's look at this aspect of your reply.

    I see the answer has been given and it is in reflection of our mistakes, learning from the past.

    The Bible offers this as a path of repentance. First acknowledge where we were wrong, ask for forgiveness and then take the actions required to implement the change for the better.

    The answer is that to change the past, we learn from our mistakes and change our ways for the future.

    Regards Tony
     
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    I said: "Proselytizing seems not to be among the serious issues the world faces."
    I was not dictating anything to anyone.
     
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    If a pure intelligence is responsible for our existence would there ever be a mistake?
     
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  17. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    Yes indeed there is. The combination of the elements.

    There has been an answer given on this and the answer is in the powers of creation, which unfold in 5 levels of spirit.

    This is a short snippet.

    "... In general there are five kinds of spirit. First is the vegetable spirit, which is the power that results from the composition and combination of the elements according to the wisdom and decree of the Most High, and from their mutual arrangement as well as their influence upon, and their interconnection with, other created things. When these parts and elements are separated, the associated power of growth likewise ceases to exist.. "

    Regards Tony
     
  18. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    Logically there are a percentage of people that will give that response.

    I can also quote from the source of intelligence, that this is so. I will not post those quotes though. ;)

    Regards Tony
     
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    You mean you were not attempting to get others to feel as though they should sideline any concerns they might have over proselytization by trying to say that other things are worse off and therefore make proselytization a non-issue? My mistake. Sorry.
     
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    I was being ironic.
     
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