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It can truly be said, Joe Biden is a man outstanding in his field

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Ya know, there are limits to what a Prez can do.
We're a constitutional republic with 50 states (or at least
56 according to Obama). Governors have the primary
power to set rules in the states, & even they are limited
by state constitutions.
Sure, sure, I think Trump has done an awful job with the
power he does have. But to attribute all the deaths to his
policies? That ignores the fact that no matter what he did,
a great many would've died. And had he tried to shut down
the economy, that too would've caused great woe, & even
deaths....all on top of Covid 19 deaths.

Biden has attributed those deaths to Trump. But when
Joe wins & assumes office in Jan 2021, do you think
that he will own the deaths during his administration?
Nah. He'll blame Trump & other factors.
Saying that a person doesn't care about something
is one of those not even false claims...mere insult.
It doesn't address what I posted.
Actually, he really didn’t and still doesn’t care about the deaths. You can hear him on Woodward’s tapes, in his own voice. He knew, and he chose to hide information and to purposefully mislead the American public.

No, Chump is not responsible for all 200,000 deaths so far, but his actions are undeniably responsible for many tens of thousands of them.
And No. Mr. Biden never claimed that Chump was responsible for all of them. He cited the facts that Chump knew, and took disasterous, and tragic action and inaction. :(

The evidence is clear and undeniable. Shutting down the economy, aiding the states with finances for the people, for the PPE, etc.... and leading by masked example while pressuring all govenors and even mayors, etc...(which he stated minutes ago in his Scranton PA town hall) would have, and still can save thousands of lives yet.
As for timing.....its like diverting a big asteroid on course to hit the Earth. A little invested energy early on has vast payoffs later. Now that Chump has screwed the pooch on that,:rolleyes: when Mr. Biden becomes POTUS, we can try, hard, to limit the inevitable damage still coming at us.
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Saying that a person doesn't care about something
is one of those not even false claims...mere insult.
It doesn't address what I posted.

I understood what you posted, you believe he isn't the only one to be blamed,
if governors have to share responsibilities then which state did better regarding covid-19.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I understood what you posted, you believe he isn't the only one to be blamed,
if governors have to share responsibilities then which state did better regarding covid-19.
I'm most familiar with my own state, Michiganistan.
It took a few months for our governor to move from
unreasonable policies (economic shut-down, but
without requiring masks) to reasonable (partial
opening, but with masks & separation required).
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I'm most familiar with my own state, Michiganistan.
It took a few months for our governor to move from
unreasonable policies (economic shut-down, but
without requiring masks) to reasonable (partial
opening, but with masks & separation required).

Does the president have the power to order closing the borders between
all states, or the states which first was infected with the virus?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Does the president have the power to order closing the borders between
all states, or the states which first was infected with the virus?
He does not.
It's questionable whether individual states can do that,
but some have imposed cross border travel regulations.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
He does not.
It's questionable whether individual states can do that,
but some have imposed cross border travel regulations.

But how the president was able to intervene regarding the protesters
in some states and even threated to use military power to stop them?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But how the president was able to intervene regarding the protesters
in some states and even threated to use military power to stop them?
As we saw, there was much push back to his
sending in federal law enforcement types.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I can't rank what Trump cares about.

Your opinion from his own acts, 200,000 civilians died from the pandemic, he didn't care
and some protesters got angry because of unfair killing of a black person, he cared
and willing to send the military to stop them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Your opinion from his own acts, 200,000 civilians died from the pandemic, he didn't care
and some protesters got angry because of unfair killing of a black person, he cared
and willing to send the military to stop them.
Your description of what happened doesn't match what I've observed.
As for his caring, I've no window into his soul, nor does he ever call
me on the phone to chat. So I can only address actions taken.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
People should seriously think about this sentence, because it speak volumes. And then consider the fact that this ugly drivel is courtesy of someone whose avatar is that of a man, standing outside, alone, and turning his back on a society in pain.
The comment was to point out hypocrisy and double standards that exist whenever photos like this are taken.

Not to mention that one of the foremost truths is that life is pain, of which is the first step entails facing such truths.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Trump didn't care about the causalities, he has been warned multiple times about how
serious covid-19 is and how dangerous the virus is but he didn't response..

Trump Was Warned About the Coronavirus More Than a Dozen Times In Daily Intel Briefings
And to fit in with what you're saying, just a reminder that even though we have 4% of the world's population, we also have over 20% of the world's fatalities, so why is that? Americans have bad genes? sunspots? To the Trump defenders, they have yet to come up with an excuse that even makes a little bit of sense.

Also, to go along with what you're saying, what about the financing from Putin's Russia to have the Taliban assassinate American soldiers, and yet Trump says and does not one damn thing against it beyond "We'll have to look into it", which he said weeks ago!

So, American lives are being lost, and yet Trump blames anyone and anything but himself, and his staunch defenders couldn't care less.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
And to fit in with what you're saying, just a reminder that even though we have 4% of the world's population, we also have over 20% of the world's fatalities, so why is that? Americans have bad genes? sunspots? To the Trump defenders, they have yet to come up with an excuse that even makes a little bit of sense.

Also, to go along with what you're saying, what about the financing from Putin's Russia to have the Taliban assassinate American soldiers, and yet Trump says and does not one damn thing against it beyond "We'll have to look into it", which he said weeks ago!

So, American lives are being lost, and yet Trump blames anyone and anything but himself, and his staunch defenders couldn't care less.

And may add more than 100 American soldiers were having traumatic brain injuries due to
Iran's strike in revenge to the assassination of Soleimani because Israel wanted him dead.

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sure you could. But then you'd have to be critical of him.
But you don't because then you'd have to be critical of him.
Are you my stalker?
I've asked you to not post to me when you're in a hostile mood.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Are you my stalker?
I've asked you to not post to me when you're in a hostile mood.
Is that your ego showing? Do you think you are important enough to me that I would be stalking you? I respond to many people. Welcome to the crowd.

I can accept your request to not post to you when I am in a hostile mood. The fact that I am posting to you is proof that I am not in a hostile mood.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Trump didn't care about the causalities, he has been warned multiple times about how
serious covid-19 is and how dangerous the virus is but he didn't response..

Trump Was Warned About the Coronavirus More Than a Dozen Times In Daily Intel Briefings

The above is a revisionist history lesson by the Democrat led swamp, who is about to loose the Supreme Court, so there will be no escape from the justice due.

Let us follow the time line from January 2020 and see what everyone was saying and doing at the beginning, so we can assign proper credit and fault. Tucker Carlson from FOX News was the first American Journalist to break the story of the Corona Virus in China. The Democrats and their allies in fake news, ignored the story and threat, since China was their buddy in their new world order fantasy. Even Doctor Fauci and the head of WHO, were downplaying the threat as another flu.

The first Government policy change, to limit the virus, was Trump stopping flights to and from China. If you recall the Democrats and Fake News called this xenophobia. This faux reassurance delayed the action of the America people. Pelosi even invited America to come to China Town SF to spite the president. I remember myself downplaying the virus, sense the majority of the articles and opinions from the specialists and main stream media were downplaying the threat.

This coordinated push against the president then cause the governors in many Democrat run states, to not read the writing on the walls. The butcher of NY, governor Cuomo, ignored the early CDC guideline data, that the elderly were the most venerable and placed younger corona virus patients in nursing homes This was the worse policy decision of the pandemic. Fake news has since tried to cover this up by ignoring it.

Do you also remember Trump coming to the rescue, providing support to all the states including the butcher states. Obama and Biden had left the stockpiles of PPE depleted and had sent manufacturing of these supplies to China. Trump had to improvise, but came through. The governors are on record, thanking Trump for not letting them lay in their own vomit. Trump cares for all the people, even the back stabbers. Trump was ahead of the curve, when the curve was not yet drawn, so the arm chair quarterbacks could revise the game.

The reason the mask is so important to the Democrats is this prop is designed to help rewrite history, by perpetuating fear, so the fear can become a self righteous distraction for the Democrat butchers. You guys are so predictable. You need new lies and more competent choices for leaders.

If you are dumb enough to fall for the Democrat revisionist history lesson, vote Democrat. The Republican party is for self aware people, only
 
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