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Featured Isn't The Bottom Line Of All Faith A Matter Of Belief?

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Alonzo Tanner, Sep 1, 2019.

  1. shunyadragon

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    Religious study sounds too much like intellectual self indoctrination, ah . . . unless you are broadening your comprehension beyond your own belief without presuppositions.
     
  2. shunyadragon

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    It is truth if you have a strong emotional commitment of a sense of belonging to the Bible as 'Truth.'
     
  3. Rival

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    Most religious people study their own texts...
     
  4. shunyadragon

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    Most religious people study only their own texts.

    That is one of the flaws perpetuated by fallible human nature.where the desire of sense of belonging negates alternatives without consideration of logic nor reason, and the reality of relationships in the world beyond what they believe. This is the reason why most ancient religions have a strong cultural and tribal orientation as a basis of what they believe.
     
  5. Nowhere Man

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    Low standards for believability. There are a number of people who would rather not be skeptical or critical about things for one reason or another.
     
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    Maybe if you actually read the Bible you would see that Ephesians 2:8 says that faith is a GIFT from God. A person can not demand a gift or go looking for a gift. You just wait for God to give it to you.
     
  7. shmogie

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    Yeah, you are right, I haven´t actually read the Bible, nice one. So, you need not study the Bible, just wait for God to give you faith. No wonder you are a lost soul
     
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    Then you have identified a dichotomy, He draws all men, He draws some men.
     
  9. beenherebeforeagain

    beenherebeforeagain Rogue Animist
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    (Hint: don't hold your breath...I've been here since 2011 and they STILL haven't arranged MY welcome party...:confused:o_O:mad::(:eek::oops::rolleyes:)
     
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    Well...I believe it behooves me believe that I should treat others with respect, doing only unto others what I would have them do to/for me...this includes all the persons I encounter, both human and other-than-human persons...I believe I should try to live with humility and grace, and treat others the same way...

    Whether I believe there is a deity or not seems irrelevant to me...if there is some omnimax deity out there, I certainly won't be able to fully perceive it or conceive of it, and if it wants to blot me out because I don't waste much time on believing in it, rather than basing such a decision on whether or not I've followed the golden rule is, well, frankly, beyond me...
     
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    Is there another way to get a gift. I never heard that studying would do it.
     
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    I do not see anything about drawing all men.
     
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  14. Unveiled Artist

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    I've asked that question a lot to myself and I don't know why I keep asking. It's a need for: Growth. Understanding. Faith. Productivity. Meaning. I need to be or a need to go. It's what supports their life, changes it, etc.

    The thing is like myself not everyone has this need in relationship to following a religion. In other words, we don't need to be spiritual or religious to have these things and the awe, awakening, or the Light in order to live.

    So, it's a foregone conclusion. Maybe you're more independent than other people. A common theme among religious is "something's missing." Maybe you have all you need and don't have that "need to die in order to live," type of thing. We're not the majority and it sounds humanist, but after awhile, it's like I give up.

    Why it's easier for others believe? Because they trust and gave themselves up for the need and fulfillment of the above. They give themselves up. If you can trust yourself so much to have discipline to Practice or have faith to follow because there's something missing or disconnect, you'd see how and why people believe. But the thing is, some of us just can't take that leap. We trust our families, our loves, etc but there are some things we just. can't. trust.

    It's one of those things to accept and keep moving.

    I wish I knew why other than need and something missing. Probably it's not easier for you is maybe you don't need a purpose? You don't care how we come here?

    I don't know. Just spit-balling.
     
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    Were you raised in a religious household? Many who have faith were just effectivly brainwashed from an early age...
     
  16. Dan From Smithville

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    I would say that sums it up pretty well.
     
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    I suppose it should be of some use to know that I read your posts, but your three young friends have four different ages.
     
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    I don't believe either. I'm 47 years old and I'm tying to, I feel like I'm supposed to. So far I've been finding that the opposite is true. It's really easy to not believe and it's incredibly hard to truly believe. I don't think it's supposed to be easy.
     
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    Someone reads such drivel? Such drivel often lacks editing.
     
  20. Audie

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    There is what people want to believe.

    There is "me too", following mommy and daddy.

    Then too, a lot of people just have no sense.

    Look at the non religious things people believe!
     
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