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Featured Islam: What Muslims teach children in Dutch schools

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by stvdv, Sep 14, 2019.

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  1. 1: No worries, it will blow over (This is Islamophobia)

  2. 2: I do worry, "Muslims who teach killing is okay" won't just blow over

  3. 3: Koran contains violent verses

  4. 4: Violent verses in Koran are dangerous in the West

  5. 5: Responsibility of highest Imam to do something now

  6. 6: Act now or Islamophobia becomes reality

  7. 7: I do not believe this happened; it's a hoax

  8. 8: I believe Allah does want Muslims to teach this

  9. 9: I believe Allah does NOT want Muslims to teach this

  10. 10: I believe Muslims should be free to teach this

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  1. Link

    Link Active Member

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    I have Salafi friends and had them through out my life. I'm Muslim.
     
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  2. sooda

    sooda Veteran Member

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    This guy?

    The Right to Religious Conversion: Between Apostasy and ...
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    Dr. A. Rashied Omar is an Imam from South Africa and Research Scholar of Islamic Studies and Peacebuilding at the University of Notre Dame. He serves as a faculty advisor to the Kroc Institute’s Program in Religion, Conflict and Peacebuilding and is an Associate of the Salam Institute for Peace and
     
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    Are they from Saudi Arabia?
     
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    Link Active Member

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    I have had two Saudi Arabian friends.
     
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    Are they militant or fanatic?
     
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    Link Active Member

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    Subjective question, but I would say they were nice and peaceful. Still believe in the death penalty for leaving Islam though.
     
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  7. stvdv

    stvdv Well-Known Member

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    This one even I didn't know. I had to google it
    I knew we had "Hollandse nieuwe", but that was a fish (herring)
     
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    I meant the funding. Saudi Arabia is reported to have been funding mosques and schools in Europe, having plenty of money to do so, of course.

    But is there, then, a sect of islam that IS violent? I had thought none of them were doctrinally and that it was the growth of "political islam", originating from Egypt and Pakistan, that was responsible for most muslim terrorism.
     
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    Yes. Very tasty. I used to buy them from the poulier in Frederik Hendriklaan in Statenkwartier, along with kipworst for my infant son. I can get maatjes haring at my fishmonger here in London, from time to time, though they are a terrible price.
     
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  10. QuestioningMind

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    About what?

    I stated that radical Muslims are no different from radical Christians:

    That's true.

    I stated that there are plenty of radical Christians who are members of the KKK who teach their children that white people are superior and that people of other races or religions should be persecuted. Religious sects teaching hate and fear is nothing new.

    That's true as well. So what I'm I so wrong about?

    I didn't say it before, but I'll say so now: 100% of KKK parents teach their children such radical Christian garbage.

    What exactly is your point?
     
  11. sooda

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    King Fahd's legacy was to build mosques all over the world for existing congregations NOT to teach violence or radical Islam. The Wahhabis weren't
    ever subject to colonialism... Sayeed Qutb and Hassan Al Banna both came out of Egypt. Pakistan is very poor and has terrible memories of British rule.

    I have sort of a half-baked theory.. That the gangster leadership of ISIS, Boko Haram, etc are rich as Midas and kill the moderates who might make some righteous compromise towards peace and progress.
     
  12. InChrist

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    There is a difference, though.

    Radical Muslims who teach their children slay non-Muslim idolaters and infidels are teaching...
    according to their scriptures.

    KKK members who claim to be "Christians" but believe other races are inferior and should be persecuted are teaching...
    against the message and instruction of the biblical scriptures.
     
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  13. QuestioningMind

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    That's according to YOU. However, if you ask any of these white supremacist morons they would have plenty of quotes from the bible that they claim backs up their moronic position. Slave owners in America constantly quoted the bible in order to justify owning other people as property. In fact, THEY would claim that it is YOU who are teaching against the message and instruction of the biblical scriptures.

    Of course, that's the problem with the bible and all other religious texts I'm ever read... people can interpret then in any way they choose.
     
  14. InChrist

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    Sure people can manipulate quotes from the Bible to fit their agendas.
    Yet, I think the problem is for those who misinterpret the Bible and they will be held accountable to the Author. The Bible says what it says, that there is only one race, the human race and all humans are on the same level...sinners who need a Savior.
     
  15. stvdv

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    You totally ignored the OP for starters

    If there is a terrorist attack by KKK and the police knows about it. 10 minutes to go.
    Or if in court the KKK is about to be sentenced

    And then comes @QuestioningMind along "Wait, wait .... why focus on KKK, the Muslims are as radical as well"
     
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    slanders only propagate Islam rather than hindering it. Please stop fabricating such things. I cant believe such schools exist in Europe any where without necessary actions from local authorities being taken against them!
     
  17. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    That sounds like him.
     
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    Shame on you for slandering stvdv when he quoted news sources.
    And who said no action was being taken?
     
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    :) thank you
     
  20. QuestioningMind

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    And I'm sure that plenty of Muslims will tell you that fundamentalists can misinterpret the Koran and will be held accountable to the author.
     
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