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Islam, Christianity and Homosexuality.

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Lorgar-Aurelian, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. Lorgar-Aurelian

    Lorgar-Aurelian Active Member

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    I've been thinking about this topic a bit lately. Well to be more specific the topic of homosexuality within the Abrahamic tradition. As if it was meant to be taken as a sign I found this video.
    I will caution you there is some strong language in this video.


    You could argue that many Abrahamic faiths are not keen on homosexuals and gay rights but very few outright celebrate the deaths of people killed in a mass shooting. These people muslims or not are savages. And anyone who celebrates the death of innocent people because they were gay is a god damn savage. Simple as that.

    When you have priests declaring that tsunamis are "because of the gays". When you have people willing to hunt down other people for being gay because their priest told them it was wrong. When you have people pushing homosexuals off buildings because of what they believe the quran says you produce people who hate religion. Let us be honest can you blame them?

    Can you blame anti-theists for existing when they have seen what so many religious people have wrought? I may not agree with the anti-theist but I can at least see the reason some of them have this sentiment.





    I'm not sure if I like how emotional these videos try to be but they have a point.
    Religion is not an evil, it's a tool that can be used to create a happy spiritual life, art and literature or it can engender tribalism. I'm just hoping we can use it to engender feelings of brotherhood, sisterhood and well all around better attitudes towards each other. I may not be a huge fan of the Homosexual community but maybe you know.. Don't go around trying to kill gay folks ya know?
     
  2. Rival

    Rival Noahide
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    I think rejoicing over anyone's death is a tragedy. That person had a family, was a son, a daughter, a friend, a co-worker.
     
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  3. Lorgar-Aurelian

    Lorgar-Aurelian Active Member

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    You'd hope a bit of common humanity would be enough but well obviously not when you say people are demonic. Pretty easy way to avoid the whole common humanity aspect.
     
  4. jcforever

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    Muslims, Christians and Jews do not understand this basic knowledge of God in how we were created;

    Genesis 1
    26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
    27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

    One man was created to have two visible bodies. One body is male and the other body is female but during this first temporary generation. man only got one body formed with both male and female information. This is why there is homosexuality but the religious minds of Satan do not understand this fact.
     
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  5. Stevicus

    Stevicus Well-Known Member
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    I don't blame them. Of course, I wouldn't blame all religious people either. I will say that Christian-majority countries appear to be more tolerant of LGBT rights than countries without a Christian majority (LGBT rights by country or territory - Wikipedia).

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    At least according to this map, Uganda isn't even the worst. Mauritania, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran appear to be worse (dark brown territories carry death penalty for homosexuality), along with Yemen, parts of Nigeria, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
     
  6. Kirran

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    Legal rights are important, but only really one part of the solution. South Africa legally provides more rights for same-sex couples than Malta, for example, but the social prejudices mean the situation in the former is much worse than the latter.

    The majority of the congregation in the church I've been going to are LGBT+ asylum-seekers from Sub-Saharan Africa.
     
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  7. hadrianus

    hadrianus Ultra Secularist

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    For south africa,the acceptance levels are high enough since these laws were made by N Mandela, africans welcome them easily.
     
  8. AliIRI

    AliIRI New Member

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    Hi.
    I think the main reason for denying homosexuality, is because of humans can't reproduce in this way.
    But as a Muslim who lives in Iran, I think the death penalty for homosexuality is somehow....
    I think the death penalty is just because of Lot's people. Imagine all of the people in a city will be homosexual. Their generation will be in danger, isn't it?
     
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