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Is Trump's credibility finally sunk?

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by leibowde84, Mar 21, 2017.

  1. leibowde84

    leibowde84 Veteran Member

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    Looks like they were wrong on that count.
     
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    Can you come up with a list of 10 lies that Hillary told publicly?
     
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    I agree that he tells some whoppers. However, none of that is illegal or actionable. I'm still waiting to see what he is going to do. Hopefully, he'll do something other than endlessly campaigning.
     
  4. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    And that's where their depravity comes in as we saw very clearly in advance that he would say and do almost anything, thus lacking a moral compass. What's he saying now is just an extension of what he continually said for over a year while running for the office!

    It's not "sour grapes"-- it's the reality of whom we elected to the highest office in the land and who now has his hand on the "nuclear football".
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    But we don't know that yet because the investigations are not complete, so it's best not to jump to conclusions one way or the other.
     
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    Kuzcotopia If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.

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    We have an election to win in 2018.

    Will this convert anyone who engages in Trumpolegetics? Of course not.

    Will it start to crack those who may have voted for him and regret it come election time? Will it help marry all f this to those who give him a pass for his deceit (the Republican controlled house/senate)?

    Trump is energizing a new generation, and not the depends-wearing, geritol set. I see a bright future ahead, long after the ancient FoxNews Trumpets are long since dead.
     
  7. LuisDantas

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    How could that possibly happen, though?
     
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    Kuzcotopia If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.

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    I'm not sure that will even make a dent.

    There's a sinister reason Trump keeps holding rallies for his fans. He'll tell them anything to keep the lies going. If he just tells them they have better healthcare and better jobs, they'll cheer and wave their signs, believing that they're about to be blessed with that too.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Actually I tend to think he likes it more for the adulation from the crowd that makes him feel more important. The two men who helped him write his books both say that he's a "small man" that thrives on praise to boost his ego, which is also why he can't accept those who disagree with him and why he won't apologize.
     
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    Every word that comes out of her mouth is a lie. Can't you see her only interest is to be an ongoing politician? She's a very corrupt woman who is only interested in money and politics. She could care less about the U.S. citizens. At least Donald Trump had a big business hiring thousands of hard working people.
     
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    Politicians sling mud all the time; it's the nature of the business. Reagan and his cohorts said a lot of nasty things about Carter. When Nixon and McCarthy were buddy-buddy with each other, they made all kinds of accusations and allegations. They accused the Democrats of treason; that's some pretty serious stuff that the country never really recovered from, nor was anyone really held accountable for it either. Although McCarthy did get censured eventually.

    It got better for a little while, but by the 1980s and 90s, the rhetoric started heating up and escalating again. It's gotten steadily worse since the turn of the century, with the mudslinging, the negative campaigning - all of which have created a very divisive and antagonistic political atmosphere and culture. People have just become plain nasty, and I even see it here in this forum.

    This is what we have created. This is what we must own. We can't say (about Trump) "No fair! He made a false criminal allegation! That's bad form!" Not in this atmosphere, it's not. It's what we have brought upon ourselves. If we don't like it now, we should have thought about all this 20-30 years ago.

    It's too late now. We're past the point of no return. Best to just sit back and enjoy the ride.
     
  12. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Evidence?

    Maybe you should do some serious reading about her before posting the above clap-trap.

    BTW, I didn't vote for her in the primaries and didn't plan on voting for her in the election until I realized that it was likely to be too close.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    And you just told a dandy of one.

    Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.
     
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    Wasn't it Trump that started this war with the media/system?
     
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    Nixon for one was held accountable and resigned to avoid impeachment.
     
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    I think some might prove actionable - we'll see.
     
  17. Revoltingest

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    You're focusing upon differences instead of similarities of the analogy.
     
  18. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    I can't predict the future.
    But it seems that dissing Trump's supporters as the "depends-wearing geritol set" is
    as wrong as describing Democrats as the fried chicken & watermelon eating set.
     
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    As well he should, given the actual significances of each.
     
  20. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    There are always differences in analogized situations....that's why they're analogies instead of identical.
    And I know that the point, ie, the similarity, will be missed by those intent on denying it.
    So it goes.
     
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