Is This the Next Silent Killer?

[Hockeycowboy]

This is from 2012...already over 8 yrs.old:

Use mobile phone on speaker or earphones to avoid radiation: Govt guidelines- Technology News, Firstpost

 

[ChristineM]

This is from 2012...already over 8 yrs.old:

Use mobile phone on speaker or earphones to avoid radiation: Govt guidelines- Technology News, Firstpost

And here is something from January this year from the US department of health including studies and references

Cell Phones and Cancer Risk

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I don't think the sky is falling.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I wonder how many recognize the irony that this message is being spread and discussed using the very technology that alarmists and conspiracy theorists are proclaiming is dangerous.

 

[ChristineM]

I wonder how many recognize the irony that this message is being spread and discussed using the very technology that alarmists and conspiracy theorists are proclaiming is dangerous.

Oh yes, i have mentioned this (and similar) to anti technology luddites who use computers and phones to spread their message. Including quite recently to the OP

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Oh yes, i have mentioned this (and similar) to anti technology luddites who use computers and phones to spread their message. Including quite recently to the OP

I figured you and SomeRandom recognized it, but I am not so sure about others.

 

[SomeRandom]

You really think so?
Television has provided a means for children to see thousands of murders. Are they unaffected?

Oh for Pete's sake, you know this didn't work the last 1000 times someone railed against the media. People were scandalized by books. Bookworms fought back and won the war. People were horrified at cinema. The Cinefiles fought back and won the war. People were upset at TV. TV watches fought back and won the war. People clutch their pears and faint at the sight of video games. The gamers fought back and won the war.

Here's an idea. Parents take responsibility for their own children and what they consume. What a truly revolutionary concept.
Hell you can literally turn on the safety features on Netflix and even YouTube these days.

Even Phones have built in face detection software to ensure the people buying things are the right people. Like technology has gone out of it's way to put in safety features. But it's not Big Brother. It's up to the parents to be vigilant and actually do some parenting.

And people have the gall to call my generation slack off responsibility dodgers. I mean, yeah that's true. But at least we are pragmatic and actually take measures to protect children. What do you guys do besides pulling a Helen Lovejoy meme?

Same with video games, just more gruesome ways.

Hence being rated as R? (Here we call that R18+ and we even have M and M15+. With photo ID required with purchase as a way to try to ensure children aren't buying them.)
Here's a good idea, don't buy a 10 year old something clearly aimed for a mature audience. Actually look at the ratings system, flawed as it is sometimes, and choose what to allow little Timmy to play or watch. If it says G or E, then it's safe and cartoony. PG/PG13 might require a person to give the movie/show/game a quick once over to see if the child is ready for it. If it says R on the box, chances are it's not suitable for children at all. I know, it requires an adult to actually look at the clearly marked labels and do their job as a parent. But you know, adult life is hard. That's why we constantly lament over the loss of our collective childhood laziness. Ahh, those were the days.

How about the Internet, allowing easy access for young ones to view pornography? Degrading sex in their minds to just pleasurable action, ignoring the damage it can cause a person emotionally? And physically?

Then come up with a solution, instead of simply complaining. I'll even give you a freebie to start you off with. Finger scanning locks on certain websites. Sell that to concerned parents and make your fortune. You're welcome.

"Technology has only ever produced better results in education..."?
I think not.

How does porn equate to education, exactly? I mean sure teenagers would probably prefer surfing porn than doing their homework. But you do know that students have actively used the internet since it's inception as an undeniably helpful resource when studying for History, Tourism, Business, English and even Science, right? I went to school during the early stages of the internet and it was an invaluable resource for completing my assessments for years. I had to use books as well. But the net was just super streamlined and far more efficient. Again, you could just monitor the kids and make sure they're doing their homework? I know it's hard to actually parent, but one could at least try.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I received an interesting email this morning concerning a silent epidemic that seems to be taking over the world.....kids exposure to radiation via their smart phones and tablets.

Here is the crux of what it said....

"Could screen use be shrinking our children’s brains?

...children in the US average 7 hours of screen use a day and check their phones 85 times a day!

Studies tell us just 2 hours a day of screen time can impact a child’s brain function.

It rewires their brain's neural circuitry.

Increased screen time neglects the circuits in the brain that control more traditional methods for learning in the frontal lobe that are typically used for reading, writing and concentration.

This abuse of digital technology is resulting in the breakdown of cognitive abilities in a way that is traditionally seen in people who have suffered a head injury or Alzheimer's disease.

Kids with Alzheimer’s symptoms?

It doesn’t even bear thinking about.

Digital dementia.

It’s the term that was coined by neuroscientist Manfred Spitzer to describe this phenomenon."

Are we seeing memory loss even in children these days? I have seen it....I am experiencing it along with other adults who fear that early dementia is overtaking us.

Who else is observing this frightening phenomena? Who today has a good memory? We seem to rely on our devices to remember things for us. This is scary.....

The #1 cause of death for young people is accidents. The #2 cause is suicide.

Ten Leading Causes of Death and Injury - PDFs|Injury Center|CDC

One list of risk factors for teen suicide is here: https://childmind.org/article/teen-suicides-risk-factors/

They list a few risk factors that I see as relevant to JW belief and practice (reordered a bit from the article):

1. Struggling with sexual orientation in an environment that is not respectful or accepting of that orientation. The issue is not whether a child is gay or lesbian, but whether he or she is struggling to come out in an unsupportive environment.
2. Lack of social support. A child who doesn’t feel support from significant adults in her life, as well as her friends, can become so isolated that suicide seems to present the only way out of her problems.
3. A psychiatric disorder, particularly a mood disorder like depression, or a trauma– and stress-related disorder.
4. Stigma associated with asking for help. One of the things we know is that the more hopeless and helpless people feel, the more likely they are to choose to hurt themselves or end their life. Similarly, if they feel a lot of guilt or shame, or if they feel worthless or have low self-esteem.

https://childmind.org/article/teen-suicides-risk-factors/

The link between the first two and JW practices is probably obvious (#1: anti-LGBTQ attitudes, #2: shunning). The last two relate to common JW attitudes toward psychiatric care:

Mental illness may be viewed by Witnesses as spiritual weakness, or as a result of evil influences. Witnesses may therefore distrust psychiatric therapy, preferring to treat mental illness within their own group. Nonetheless, an issue may be that the strict nature of the religious practices demanded by members, the focus on imminent cataclysmic disaster, and the shunning of members who have left the faith, may form fertile ground for the development of mental distress.

Jehovah's Witnesses and Health

So the question for you: even if we assume that the effects of cell phone use are as bad as you fear, which is more likely to result in the death of a young person:

- using a cell phone regularly, or
- being raised by JW parents?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Whenever mega-money is involved, we can be skeptical of studies supporting the "money-side" of the issues....at least until it can't be hidden anymore!

Any thoughts? Ad homs?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Oh for Pete's sake,.....

Who's Pete?

(I must've 'pushed your buttons,' as they say. No offense intended.)

 

[SomeRandom]

Who's Pete?

(I must've 'pushed your buttons,' as they say. No offense intended.)

Pete is that guy everyone always seems to invoke when an eye roll is inevitable. Never met the bloke, but he hasn’t objected yet, so he must be a stand up guy.

I have a visceral reaction against censorship, in general.

 

[Deeje]

The #1 cause of death for young people is accidents. The #2 cause is suicide.

Ten Leading Causes of Death and Injury - PDFs|Injury Center|CDC

One list of risk factors for teen suicide is here: https://childmind.org/article/teen-suicides-risk-factors/

They list a few risk factors that I see as relevant to JW belief and practice (reordered a bit from the article):

1. Struggling with sexual orientation in an environment that is not respectful or accepting of that orientation. The issue is not whether a child is gay or lesbian, but whether he or she is struggling to come out in an unsupportive environment.
2. Lack of social support. A child who doesn’t feel support from significant adults in her life, as well as her friends, can become so isolated that suicide seems to present the only way out of her problems.
3. A psychiatric disorder, particularly a mood disorder like depression, or a trauma– and stress-related disorder.
4. Stigma associated with asking for help. One of the things we know is that the more hopeless and helpless people feel, the more likely they are to choose to hurt themselves or end their life. Similarly, if they feel a lot of guilt or shame, or if they feel worthless or have low self-esteem.

https://childmind.org/article/teen-suicides-risk-factors/

Here we go again with the ignorant rubbish based on what? Do you ever stop with this half baked nonsense?

Here's a TIME Magazine article that outlines the real cause of teen depression and suicide.
Depression and Suicide Rates Are Rising Sharply in Young Americans, New Report Says
Its nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses. What a warped attitude you display.

How about, another study that noted that most studies on the mental health of Jehovah's Witnesses were not based on facts at all...

"In contrast to this, my two empirical studies of the mental health of JW throw some light of the issue. My study of 984 members of 8 congregations of JW in southern Norway in 1993 (published in 2001), shows that the rate of mental illness and severe depression among the Witnesses was less than half the rate in the Norwegian population. My 2015 study is particularly important because the mental health of one third of the Witnesses in Norway was considered (5,457 members in 35 congregations). In order to make the study representative for JW worldwide, 3,283 members in 24 congregations in USA, as well as 1,935 members in 15 congregations in 13 other countries were included.

The results are that the rate of mental illness (psychosis, including schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder) among JW is a little more than one third of the rate in the population as a whole, and the rate of severe depression is about one fifth of the rate in the population. These results are the diametrical opposite of the five old studies of the mental health of JW published in scholarly journals, the publications of Jerry Bergman, as well as numerous articles on the Internet. Because the criteria used are simple and clear, and because the group that has been studied is large and represents 15 different countries, the results can be viewed as representative for the worldwide population of Jehovah’s Witnesses."

JWS - Rolf FURULI

The link between the first two and JW practices is probably obvious (#1: anti-LGBTQ attitudes, #2: shunning). The last two relate to common JW attitudes toward psychiatric care:
Mental illness may be viewed by Witnesses as spiritual weakness, or as a result of evil influences. Witnesses may therefore distrust psychiatric therapy, preferring to treat mental illness within their own group. Nonetheless, an issue may be that the strict nature of the religious practices demanded by members, the focus on imminent cataclysmic disaster, and the shunning of members who have left the faith, may form fertile ground for the development of mental distress.

Jehovah's Witnesses and Health

I couldn't get this link to open but its is another complete fabrication. Mental health issues among my brotherhood are treated by professionals. Our elders are not psychiatrists or psychologists and will recommend professional help for those with mental illness. We are as prone to the world-wide epidemic of mental illness as anyone. In case you haven't noticed, most of the people who suffer with mental health issues in this world are NOT Jehovah's Witnesses. We are not over represented as you like to infer.

Our attitude to gender orientation is based on the Bible, and it is the Bible's view that we promote. That involves a moral code that is required of everyone...regardless of gender. Immorality is immorality and if you wish to practice it, you don't belong in out ranks. End of story.

So the question for you: even if we assume that the effects of cell phone use are as bad as you fear, which is more likely to result in the death of a young person:

- using a cell phone regularly, or
- being raised by JW parents?

This is a joke....right? It is what cell phones are used for that is the problem.....social media and cyber bullying are the more likely culprits in teen suicide. Time to put your sick prejudices to rest. Being raised by JW parents is preferable to being raised by hate fueled bigots IMO.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Whenever mega-money is involved, we can be skeptical of studies supporting the "money-side" of the issues....at least until it can't be hidden anymore!

Any thoughts? Ad homs?

On this issue, I'd say that the "money-side" are probably those who are looking to get rich with lawsuits against cell phone companies.

I'm having flashbacks to the shoddy studies linking glyphosate to cancer that have now spawned a whole army of legal firms to do ads on late-night TV asking "did you use RoundUp? We can get you cash!"

 

[Hockeycowboy]

The #1 cause of death for young people is accidents. The #2 cause is suicide.

Ten Leading Causes of Death and Injury - PDFs|Injury Center|CDC

One list of risk factors for teen suicide is here: https://childmind.org/article/teen-suicides-risk-factors/

They list a few risk factors that I see as relevant to JW belief and practice (reordered a bit from the article):

1. Struggling with sexual orientation in an environment that is not respectful or accepting of that orientation. The issue is not whether a child is gay or lesbian, but whether he or she is struggling to come out in an unsupportive environment.
2. Lack of social support. A child who doesn’t feel support from significant adults in her life, as well as her friends, can become so isolated that suicide seems to present the only way out of her problems.
3. A psychiatric disorder, particularly a mood disorder like depression, or a trauma– and stress-related disorder.
4. Stigma associated with asking for help. One of the things we know is that the more hopeless and helpless people feel, the more likely they are to choose to hurt themselves or end their life. Similarly, if they feel a lot of guilt or shame, or if they feel worthless or have low self-esteem.

https://childmind.org/article/teen-suicides-risk-factors/

The link between the first two and JW practices is probably obvious (#1: anti-LGBTQ attitudes, #2: shunning). The last two relate to common JW attitudes toward psychiatric care:


Jehovah's Witnesses and Health

So the question for you: even if we assume that the effects of cell phone use are as bad as you fear, which is more likely to result in the death of a young person:

- using a cell phone regularly, or
- being raised by JW parents?

In your "childmind" link, the last risk factor is...

• Cultural and religious beliefs that suicide is a noble way to resolve a personal dilemma.

Huh?

Do you know of any religious beliefs that claim suicide "is a noble way to resolve a personal dilemma"? I don't know of any relevant, well-known religions that do... certainly not JW's! (The Haley-Bop people? The Jonestown nuts?)

I could not access your last link.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

In your "childmind" link, the last risk factor is...

• Cultural and religious beliefs that suicide is a noble way to resolve a personal dilemma.

Huh?

Do you know of any religious beliefs that claim suicide "is a noble way to resolve a personal dilemma"? I don't know of any relevant, well-known religions that do... certainly not JW's! (The Haley-Bop people? The Jonestown nuts?)

That's just one risk factor. No individual is going to have every risk factor. An LGBTQ child of JW parents will have several of them, as I described before.

I could not access your last link.

It seems that sometime between when I wrote my post in April and when the thread got necro'd yesterday, the University of Ottawa reorganized their website.