Is This An Example Of Islam?

[Shadow Wolf]

Wow...

Wow what? 9/11 was essentially Osama Bin Laden biting the hand the fed him, a hand that has its business of corporate corruption spread throughout the world. Yes, the American government provoked those attacks because its foreign policy sucks. It's also a chance you take when you help prop up a fringe leader that may be trouble one day but do it anyways because he is fighting someone that you have made it a national policy to hate.

 

[Farrukh]

Well it seems that the stone-age mentality of some parts of Sharia Law has raised it's ugly head again.
This Is the Pregnant Woman Sudan Wants to Hang for Marrying a Christian - ABC News

However, it seems that there are those in the US and elsewhere that have closed their eyes and ears to the atrocities being committed under the guise of Islam. And the phobia of Islamphobia continues to grow.
Islamophobia in action? 'Honor Diaries' screening shut down by CAIR | Fox News
Yet there may be a growing concern about the problems of radical fundamentalism of Sharai Law. Look at the hoopla in LA over the Sultan of Brunei
Jay Leno joins Beverly Hills hotel protest against Sultan of Brunei
Even twitter is getting into the act via the First Lady
Michelle Obama and Malala join campaign to bring back kidnapped Nigerian girls | Mail Online
However, this event may not have too much to do with Sharia Law but more with embarrassing the government of Nigeria.
So, what are your opinions?

she is going to hell after death, so what is wrong if they throw him in hell few days earlier?

 

[Thana]

Wow what? 9/11 was essentially Osama Bin Laden biting the hand the fed him, a hand that has its business of corporate corruption spread throughout the world. Yes, the American government provoked those attacks because its foreign policy sucks. It's also a chance you take when you help prop up a fringe leader that may be trouble one day but do it anyways because he is fighting someone that you have made it a national policy to hate.

Sorry... You're just too much lol.
I'm not touching your posts.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sorry... You're just too much lol.
I'm not touching your posts.

Other than it being grossly simplified (such as these problems going back to before WWII; that results of that war only added to the tension), what problems do you find with that statement? What other reason was there for the attack? Why is it so unreasonable to think that one group or country the United States government has messed up actually retaliated? The United States foreign policy is, at best, corrupt and rotten to its very core.

 

[Flankerl]

Haha, there are some doozies out there.

I take that as a yes.

 

[Debater Slayer]

she is going to hell after death, so what is wrong if they throw him in hell few days earlier?

So you support killing the woman for converting to Christianity?

 

[beenie]

she is going to hell after death, so what is wrong if they throw him in hell few days earlier?

I am going to is dearly hope that this post was made with great sarcasm.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Bottom line: I have interacted with many, many individuals from half a dozen Muslim organizations representing mosques and Islamic centers all over greater Chicagoland. The overwhelming majority of these men and women - Bosniac, Hispanic, Indian, Pakistani, Palestinian, Turk - were warm, intelligent, liberal, and deeply committed to their religion. Denigrating such people with sick and baseless generalizations is nothing more than bigotry run amok.

 

[FearGod]

she is going to hell after death, so what is wrong if they throw him in hell few days earlier?

Brother Farrukh,

Can we judge who will go to hell and who will go to paradise.

Why the judgement day is made for ?

Instead of punishing and killing then why not giving chances to repent,if God accept repentance,then why not we.

There is no perfect human and we may sin but the best ones who admit and ask for forgiveness,but killing is even shutting the door for repentance.

Omar bin alkhattab cancelled the law of cutting off the hands of the thieves in the days of starvation,and he execute a law as not to punish who steal foods.

If Islam is about peace and mercy,then where is the mercy in killing a person for committing a sin that God himself may forgive.

I believe killing should be only for killers and murderers.

He entered the city at a time when its people were lax, and found two men fighting there, one from his own sect and the other from his enemy´s. The one who was from his own faction appealed for his assistance against the one who was from his enemy´s. Moses punched him and he finished him off! He said: "This is some of Satan´s work; he is such an enemy, a plain misleader." 28:15

So the verse shows that the prophet did a mistake and he realized and admitted that he did a sin by beating an innocent person even though that the person was one of his enemies but still not allowed to kill him for whatever reason.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Thanks, we will see how they try to deny what their law says and what their very scripture says.

The truth is the truth.
Very disturbing they keep attacking me and seem to be defending this barbaric law of islam
Worship our god or die

eh....!!!!


Both Islam and the Old Testament have similar language in this respect.

Bible, Revised Standard Version
Deuteronomy 13:6-9

[6]"If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, `Let us go and serve other gods,' which neither you nor your fathers have known,

[7] some of the gods of the peoples that are round about you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other,

[8] you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him;

[9] but you shall kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

 

[Farrukh]

Brother Farrukh,

Can we judge who will go to hell and who will go to paradise.

Why the judgement day is made for ?

Instead of punishing and killing then why not giving chances to repent,if God accept repentance,then why not we.

There is no perfect human and we may sin but the best ones who admit and ask for forgiveness,but killing is even shutting the door for repentance.

Omar bin alkhattab cancelled the law of cutting off the hands of the thieves in the days of starvation,and he execute a law as not to punish who steal foods.

If Islam is about peace and mercy,then where is the mercy in killing a person for committing a sin that God himself may forgive.

I believe killing should be only for killers and murderers.

He entered the city at a time when its people were lax, and found two men fighting there, one from his own sect and the other from his enemy´s. The one who was from his own faction appealed for his assistance against the one who was from his enemy´s. Moses punched him and he finished him off! He said: "This is some of Satan´s work; he is such an enemy, a plain misleader." 28:15

So the verse shows that the prophet did a mistake and he realized and admitted that he did a sin by beating an innocent person even though that the person was one of his enemies but still not allowed to kill him for whatever reason.

Assalaamoalaikum
you took it serious, this thread was total none-sense. If a car driver has hit an elderly women walking on side of road, how you can blame traffic police department for that accident?

Edited:
by the way, there is no religion other than Islam
"And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers." Quran 3:85
so obviously she will go to hell if she has become Christian.

 

[FearGod]

Assalaamoalaikum
you took it serious, this thread was total none-sense. If a car driver has hit an elderly women walking on side of road, how you can blame traffic police department for that accident?

Edited:
by the way, there is no religion other than Islam
"And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers." Quran 3:85
so obviously she will go to hell if she has become Christian.

Salam Brother Farrukh,

You have to read the next verses and to the main point and which is that God is opening the door for repentance which can't be achieved by killing the one who committed a sin and also we don't know if the person will repent or not in the near future, many atheists converted to Islam in one day night and if you saw them before a day then you may say to them (you will be in the hell) but they aren't and we'll never know who will end in hell and who will end in the paradise.

except for those who repent later on and reform. God is Forgiving, Merciful! (3:89)

 

[Thana]

eh....!!!!


Both Islam and the Old Testament have similar language in this respect.

Bible, Revised Standard Version
Deuteronomy 13:6-9

That passage is talking about the Gods of that time, Which, Those particular Gods demanded sacrifice such as killing infants, children, Sexual perversion, mutilation, All that fun stuff. The passage also states that you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. So it's not a jump the gun kind of situation.

Also, Do you see many Christians going around practising this? No? Because it's not law like Sharia Law.

Seriously.. Can we not have a discussion about Islam without having to also drag Christianity through the mud?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

eh....!!!!


Both Islam and the Old Testament have similar language in this respect.

Bible, Revised Standard Version
Deuteronomy 13:6-9

But no, it is only Islam that has cruel "stone-age" punishments. 2 Kings 2:24 is one of my favorite, as two bears mauling fourty-two boys is really brutal. And then of course there is Paul, who seems to have completely ignored Jesus' teachings of love, mercy, and forgiveness and went straight back to the OT ways of eye for an eye and mock me and your final moments will be torturous.

 

[FearGod]

That passage is talking about the Gods of that time, Which, Those particular Gods demanded sacrifice such as killing infants, children, Sexual perversion, mutilation, All that fun stuff. The passage also states that you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. So it's not a jump the gun kind of situation.

Also, Do you see many Christians going around practising this? No? Because it's not law like Sharia Law.

Seriously.. Can we not have a discussion about Islam without having to also drag Christianity through the mud?

Its like you want to speak about plants without mentioning its roots or to speak about the evolution of Human without mentioning Homo Erectus.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That passage is talking about the Gods of that time, Which, Those particular Gods demanded sacrifice such as killing infants, children, Sexual perversion, mutilation, All that fun stuff. The passage also states that you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. So it's not a jump the gun kind of situation.

Also, Do you see many Christians going around practising this? No? Because it's not law like Sharia Law.

Seriously.. Can we not have a discussion about Islam without having to also drag Christianity through the mud?

It depends on where you are at. In many African nations, yes there are Christians who are violent monsters. Ireland has the notorious Irish Republican Army, who waves the banner of Catholicism. And we do have Christians who believe they must kill non believers, and who think it is their god-given duty to bomb abortion clinics. Or what about the Sunday Holier-Than-Thou crowd that makes working with customers a real pain on any given Sunday here in America?

And do you know, according to the Quran, Sharia law is technically only applicable to Muslims? Do you know that Biblical law prescribes many harsh and seemingly unreasonable punishments? And what of the fact that Islam and Christianity (as do Jews) both worship the same exact god, who is the god of Abraham?

 

[Farrukh]

That passage is talking about the Gods of that time, Which, Those particular Gods demanded sacrifice such as killing infants, children, Sexual perversion, mutilation, All that fun stuff. The passage also states that you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. So it's not a jump the gun kind of situation.

Also, Do you see many Christians going around practising this? No? Because it's not law like Sharia Law.

Seriously.. Can we not have a discussion about Islam without having to also drag Christianity through the mud?

strange, who were Gods of that time? there is only one God, same God sent prophet Moses, Jesus, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all) and all others.

 

[Thana]

strange, who were Gods of that time? there is only one God, same God sent prophet Moses, Jesus, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all) and all others.

They were Pagan Gods I believe though I'm not sure, Though of course I don't believe they were Gods, They were just worshipped as such.

 

[YmirGF]

I can't believe I missed a thread about Islam on RF. I feel so ashamed, but that is probably just my white privilege talking.

Trust me, I'd love to blame Islam for this court "ruling" but it is not "Islam's fault" per se, it is the fault of what are essentially some country hicks that have distorted Sharia Law in the most brutal way, in light of extreme interpretations of mainly hadiths... Yeah, strangely enough, in the Muslim world people have different opinions. Who knew?

It would be fair to turn your outrage towards the judge himself and perhaps the government he represents. It isn't fair to judge Islam by what this single judge decided.

Ohhh, and as far as news outlets and politicians are concerned. Most of them have a rather pathetic understanding of Islam and Sharia Law. So take their comments with several boxes of salt. Ignorance of Islam from non-Muslims is almost as big a factor here as the judges ignorance of the majority of opinions in the Muslim world.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

That passage is talking about the Gods of that time, Which, Those particular Gods demanded sacrifice such as killing infants, children, Sexual perversion, mutilation, All that fun stuff. The passage also states that you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. So it's not a jump the gun kind of situation.

Also, Do you see many Christians going around practising this? No? Because it's not law like Sharia Law.

You spin your scriptures how you like and Muslims will spin theirs how they like. Both sides scriptures advocate many of the same things. Yes, in the OT "God" did in fact command those to kill the children of the opposing side, to take the young girls and...well you get the point.

Seriously.. Can we not have a discussion about Islam without having to also drag Christianity through the mud?

Sure we could but what fun would that be considering the obvious parallels...?...